ETA on Advanced Class change?

It is an argument based on a flawed foundation.

IF ACs are separate classes...that much is obviously debatable with some folks, it really doesn't matter what Bioware thinks any more than it matters what someone else thinks besides you individually, that still has little to nothing to do with whether or not AC change should or could be allowed in this game.

Instead of discussing it logically, IMO, people keep resorting to this self feeding argument.

ACs are classes
No they are not

Since they are classes and class change is bad it should not be allowed here
They are not classes so it should be allowed here

Class change would hurt other players since players will not know the new class
It is not class change, and what other players do does not effect you

The real question, IMO, is whether or not the choice of AC is meaningful to the game population or not. If it isn't, than changing AC would be just as trivial as changing spec....and there are different degrees of meaningful, meaning one might accept a change early on (within 5 or 10 levels of initial choice) but not later on or unlimited.

If it is meaningful to the majority of the population, how would this change effect the overall views of the game with that playerbase?

There are many changes that could be made to the game that would make certain aspects of the game less meaningful. For instance, Bioware could start giving all characters on your account a 1 million EC a month allowance. Or allow you to roll a fresh 55, as many as you want, after maxing out one level 55 character.

They could remove all types of death penalty to make it completely non-punitive....I could go on.

Many changes could be made that one might say would not effect others, only you....but how would it effect their overall view of the game?

Is there such a thing as too easy? When it becomes too easy to change jobs in a game, does that job become less meaningful?

The idea that ACs are classes or not is speculative. That is up to each individual and how they view the system. The idea that it will no negative or positive impact if implemented...well...

I think that any sensible person has to concede that there are benefits...and detriments. Which will outweigh which?

Preventing AC change now or pointing out it is permanent means nothing IMO. Most of the latest changes to the game prove that once permanent changes are no longer so, and pretty much anything seems to be on the table of consideration. IMO it is silly to even mention it.


The question we should ask IMO....what effect would this change on the game population? Will it be welcomed or derided? Accepted or rejected?

In the end this is the only important question IMO.

Not sure how many times this poster has to be told that "the devs" can make any change to the game they want, regardless of how vociferously some posters claim they shouldn't simply because it's always been this way.

Your turn.

Hence the thread looking for WHEN AC change will be allowed, since they've implied it was coming.

Was species change allowed pre-launch or within a year post launch? Or body type? Or hair color? Your last statement is obviously and easily provably false.

Thanks for agreeing with me.


Gotta stop you there, at least you understand that AC change doesn't affect other players. Especially with the restrictions myself and many others have provided. What you are doing now, is comparing it to field respec, which can be changed on the fly. Which is something nobody is asking for. You have to stop with this mindset that AC change would be available with a click of a button with no restrictions.


You seem to forget that going DPS spec on a sin or a jugg is faster for solo/leveling. Therefore people can play all the way to level 55 without ever touching that taunt button(hell even tanks don't use it now.). So that talking point, is nufflied.

There are tool-tips explaining what each ability does, don't try to lie to us and say that the game doesn't provide info on what each talent and skill does. It gives you all the info that is required, you are grasping at straws now.

The thing with level 15, is you don't go far into the talent tree at all to get a sense of what healing is like. If you were an operative healer at level 15, you would think it's horrible. Even though it's probably the best healing class in the game as of now. In order to get a full grasp of the potential that your AC can do, it would have to be in the level 35-45 range. Anything below pretty much tells you nothing.

Just so you know, there is a difference between a sorc DPS and a Merc DPS, even though they are both ranged.

Are we ever going to get a gold post on this thread? It's gone on WAY too long without some kind of Bioware acknowledgement.

we wont get one until we hit the 1000 page limit count when the mod lock this thread and start a new one

Explain to me what excellent business practice is and then we will compare notes.

/shrugs

If people would pay for it, why not?

If you don't like it; don't do it. Simple as that.

For this particular feature, I agree.

Thats the only reason I keep checking this thread is to see if we get a dev post, then I get sucked into reading and commenting.