Need Official answer: Tauntaun quest, Griefing vs PVP

All of my toons in WoW were on a PvP server for a few years (until I got tired of it), this included when Lich King launched and DK's were beyond powerful.

PvP servers are all about grief. Why do you think people raided (becides the rewards) the capital cities so often on PvP servers. You could grief tons of low level people. It is part of the way they work.

Sorry.

Shouldn't have rolled on a PvP server if you weren't ok with the risks of playing on a PvP server.


IF they do this for an extended period of time, move to another instance and /report them under harassment. Doubt anything will happen, but that is what the feature was implemented for. . .

I see nothing wrong with people only picking fights they want and not every fight... but maybe it's because I am playing a stealth class and have done so in many MMOs, so that I can pick always the fight when they suit me best. That is a feature in MMOs, not a bug and that means on PvP server people can attack whenever they choose to. It's is possible to play that way, and I see nothing wrong with it. And I also look forward to arenas and be pretty sure to do there well. In my opinion only people who are not verey good in the first place ask for social rules in combat games, since a good player comes up with ideas to overcome the problems s/he faces, while a bad player whines and ask for rules to prevent people using everything they got.

If you have PvP in a game, expect PvP. Not only when it suits you but especially when it suits someone else.

and of course you'll think that, otherwise you'll have to take accountability and blame for your own decisions.

why do that when you can call people names for playing the game exactly the way it was meant to be played?

I, as a player, have an equal opportunity to kill enemy players around the nest upon my arrival. Call me crazy but I don't get into the whole fad of "ERMERGHERD IF ITZ RED ITZ DED". I could care less that this republic character is doing exactly what I am doing and I typically will not bother one unless I sense they are about to attack me or if I feel threatened. There are signs and/or movements of a hostile player to look for, for the most part.

That said, the situation you are describing sounds similar yet different than what I saw last night. You are asking if it's griefing when you are attacked upon a successful lure only. However, what I saw was republic attacking after they had used their 3 chances at the nest.

I'd roll up on my mount, check out who was there and begin to lure away. Once the republic was done, they usually attacked. 4/5 times, they wish they had picked on a different Sniper but sure there would be one or two here and there that would get me...whatever no big deal. It's just some pixels on a screen. It is what made doing this entire thing fun. I enjoy the unspoken understanding between the two factions and I also realize anything, a stray bullet towards an NPC that was not tabbed too correctly for example, can and will lead to a fun battle.

Back to your original question, is it griefing? In a sense, I can see why some would consider this griefing but I wouldn't label it that myself. This mount escapade is not a mandatory thing to do. You can continue your quests and gameplay with or without this tauntaun. When I think of griefing, I think of player A killing player B repeatedly and not allowing player B to move forward in their game, what you described does not fit that description.

How do you define griefing?

I take that back, as in ALL other MMOs this is considered griefing and not PVP. IM not the LEAST supprised with your response, when i see the hacking in WZ some done by same character for months without any action from any GM.

In other words i shoudent have expected Bioware to be able to do what other quality MMOs are doing regarding griefing vs PVP.

It was naive of me to even believe this would happen in this game after all the failures, and 100 % focus on moneygrab CC store. :-) Peace

YOU ARE ON A PVP SERVER

the idea of griefing goes out the window. Blizzard does the exact same thing. Hell, THEY ENCOURAGE IT.

Bring a friend or a couple guildies this is an MMO after all.

also the objection can easily be completed if you simply move the wampa away from the group. So regardless if you kill the wampa before the imps kill you you will get the objective

You know, I'm not much of a PvPer. In fact I'm terrible at it. i don't complain about it though. These days I just don't do those types of activities. but, in the past in other games if I was going into a contested area for a quest I would gather my friends who were good at PvP and enjoyed it and asked if they would watch my back. They got to have fun protecting me and PvPing out in the world. We all had fun and got things done. Together, we had fun and they even got me to do a bit of PvPing with them.

That is how I believe this is designed to work. Just a guess.

Except they DONT.

As an 8 year + WOW player on a PVP server from times of US closed beta for WOW i happen to have quite a good memory on what was actioned in PVP and what was not.

I challenge You to show me an official blue Blizzard post where they ENCOURAGE grieifng as opposed to PVP