Juggernaut suggestions for our Representative

This is the point I was trying to make earlier, and the questions you've formed are along the lines of what I was thinking.

The only thing I could add to the Vengeance question is that not only is the spec reliant on the Rampage proc, it also doesn't have a spammable ability that procs it like Mercs and PTs do with Barrage and PPA while maintaining a lower proc rate than either of those abilities as well.

Can we get our guard and jug reps to collaborate? We need to start a new official "3 concerns list" in a new thread.




Edit:

I've thrown our two big concerns over to the guardian thread.

Topic 1... Rampage revamp
Topic 2... Enraged defense revamp for each tree.

Topic 3, I had left that open for possible synergies with guards, for the general quality of life improvements will of course benefit us all. Please post ideas for topic 3 with them as well, for the time to collaborate is NOW. Thanks.

Juggernauts need an offensive cooldown. Just 1. I got reminded of this last night when we were doing HM Styrak. The enrage timer begins after the beast goes down for the first time. So my raid leader calls out "save your offensive cooldowns until after the beast is down" and all I can ask is, "What If my class has NO offensive cooldowns?"

My suggestion is to give us something small, maybe just a boost to % damage when we hit Enrage, now we will have plenty of fury and some limited time to use it in. Perfect, I think.

I understand where you were coming from.

And in UncleOst's defense, a brief reference to one or two proposed changes wouldn't be out of the question, as long as they could be brief and made to flow as part of the overall question, without launching into links to paragraphs and dot points of "what you should do to fix it".

There is a similar thing happening in the guard forum where there are no actual questions being put forth for group review. Also I don't want to give the impression that I am trying to muscle in on the actual class reps job, I am just getting concerned that we are not putting forth questions. The sniper's have already submitted their 3.

Offensive cooldowns don't just mean class abilities. For most classes its relics and adrenals, which everyone can use.

This is not true at all. Marauders have one, a raid wide one at that. Snipers have one that makes their next snipe a automatic crit. Sorcs and Assassin have one that makes their next 2 force attacks crit. Mercs have an ability that makes their next ability free and instant cast, and one that makes the next 2 casts free heat to use. I'm sure there are more I'm missing. Juggs have 0

Knock back defense for tanking is more important than either of those, imo.

This is not true at all. Marauders have one, a raid wide one at that. Snipers have one that makes their next snipe a automatic crit. Sorcs and Assassin have one that makes their next 2 force attacks crit. Mercs have an ability that makes their next ability free and instant cast, and one that makes the next 2 casts free heat to use. I'm sure there are more I'm missing. Juggs have 0