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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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Grayseven
08.03.2013 , 11:30 AM | #2811
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
Do you mean the one I have repeatedly mentioned in which they state that AC changes will "likely happen" at some undetermined point in the future? Do you mean the one? If so, I am not dismissing it. I fully acknowledge that the devs said AC changes would "likely happen". I also acknowledge that they gave no definite time frame, they did NOT say that AC changes WOULD happen and that there has been absolutely NOTHING further from the devs regarding AC changes since that statement last November 2012.

They also mentioned that allowing race changes would "likely happen" in that same statement, and those are now available. But although they did implement race changes, they still have not implemented, or even mentioned again, AC changes. I wonder why.
Probably the same reason we haven't heard anything about the SSSP, or NA to EU server transfers, or a bunch of other stuff people want to know about.

Yet here you come, constantly arguing against AC change for no other reason than "a dev said they were different classes" one upon a time? Basically you are saying we should all ignore your comments because you don't have a real argument against an AC change system. Good to know.
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TUXs
08.03.2013 , 11:31 AM | #2812
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
There are plenty of negatives that have already been posted ad nauseum. You have simply continually chosen to dismiss and ignore them because they do not mesh with your desire for a class change.
Give me ONE.

Seriously, we have 282 pages. If you know that there's a good reason, give it to me.
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Ratajack
08.03.2013 , 11:33 AM | #2813
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Huh...the other Star Wars MMO allowed it. Not every MMO is W0W Rat. Also, what negative? You keep avoiding that question. I don't think you really have one lol.
The other Star Wars MMO? Do you mean the one that no longer exists?

I said allowing class changes was NOT the industry norm. How many MMO's allow CLASS changes? How many MMO's do NOT allow CLASS changes?

If you can provide a list of more MMO's that allow CLASS changes than those that do not, then maybe there could be a case made for class changes to be an industry norm. I doubt that you can do that, though. I think you will find that NOT allowing CLASS changes is, in fact, the industry norm.

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TUXs
08.03.2013 , 11:34 AM | #2814
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
The other Star Wars MMO? Do you mean the one that no longer exists?

I said allowing class changes was NOT the industry norm. How many MMO's allow CLASS changes? How many MMO's do NOT allow CLASS changes?

If you can provide a list of more MMO's that allow CLASS changes than those that do not, then maybe there could be a case made for class changes to be an industry norm. I doubt that you can do that, though. I think you will find that NOT allowing CLASS changes is, in fact, the industry norm.
Do your own homework, that's your claim, not mine. I'm talking about AC change in THIS game Rat.
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Ratajack
08.03.2013 , 11:35 AM | #2815
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Give me ONE.

Seriously, we have 282 pages. If you know that there's a good reason, give it to me.
There are 282 pages. Go back and read them.

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TUXs
08.03.2013 , 11:36 AM | #2816
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
There are 282 pages. Go back and read them.
Got it. You don't have even ONE you're willing to defend. Nice to know lol.
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Grayseven
08.03.2013 , 11:37 AM | #2817
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
There are 282 pages. Go back and read them.
And every argument against has been refuted. There are no good reasons to not allow it, while the very best argument to allow it...that being it gives players an option.
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ekwalizer
08.03.2013 , 11:39 AM | #2818
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
Is daniel erickson still here?
NO, but that doesn't change the fact that the Creative Director and Lead Developer at the time the game was designed stated emphatically that ACs were separate classes and not meant to be interchangeable.

Whether he still works there or not is irrelevant.

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Ratajack
08.03.2013 , 11:40 AM | #2819
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Do your own homework, that's your claim, not mine. I'm talking about AC change in THIS game Rat.
You were the one who brought up industry norms. I did not. I simply pointed out that CLASS changes were NOT the norm in the industry, which by your own quote you acknowledge.

Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
This This is the bottom line. People need to mind their own business and not worry so much about what others are doing. I mean seriously...this impacts those of you who are so concerned about it 0%!!!! Let it go.

Again, MMOs are fluid enough that there's no reason this shouldn't be the norm in the industry. There's NO rational reason not to allow it. Nobody has presented even ONE valid reason that allowing this would be a negative to the game or the community.
Since I had the audacity to point out that CLASS changes were not the industry norm, you want to narrow your focus to this one game, again.

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TUXs
08.03.2013 , 11:40 AM | #2820
Quote: Originally Posted by Grayseven View Post
And every argument against has been refuted. There are no good reasons to not allow it, while the very best argument to allow it...that being it gives players an option.
Thank you for your contributions to this debate Gray. I appreciate you posting on this subject.
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