Pay to Win

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Propane

07.31.2013 , 07:34 PM \| #401	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by chuixupu We can't, because it's not. OOPS. Now lets go back to how I stumped you because all your argument boils down to is "Pay to avoid the pay to win restrictions Free players have on them"

chuixupu

07.31.2013 , 07:34 PM \| #402	Quote
Gw2 on the other hand actually does have real pay to win elements https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/foru...Tower-captures
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Grayseven

07.31.2013 , 07:35 PM \| #403	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Propane You obviously haven't played much MMO's if you are calling GW2 a WoW rip off. You probably haven't played WoW if you aren't calling SWTOR a WoW rip off. Now keep GW2 off of here. SWTOR's F2P model is horrible and everyone here defending EAware's practices should feel bad. Every MMO is a WoW rip-off according to their respective forum denizens. I like SWTOR's F2P model because it encourages players to support the game, thereby benefiting us all.
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Propane

07.31.2013 , 07:38 PM \| #404	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by chuixupu Gw2 on the other hand actually does have real pay to win elements https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/foru...Tower-captures Welcome to the world of reading, he was posting about paying with ingame coins. Why don't we go back to why you are still stumped on our last argument why all your arguments boil down to "Just pay to avoid Pay to Win restrictions" You can google anything is pay to win sir, doesn't make you seem any smarter.

Propane

07.31.2013 , 07:40 PM \| #405	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Grayseven I like SWTOR's F2P model because it encourages players to support the game, thereby benefiting us all. It doesn't encourage them, it forces them to pay if they actually want to experience the actual game. You don't really have to worry about the F2Pers because you are subbed. Don't speak on their behalf. Now if they could post on the swtor website, this forum would have a complete different feeling. Everyone here is subbed and they don't really care what free players do.

hadoken

07.31.2013 , 07:44 PM \| #406	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Propane Welcome to the world of reading, he was posting about paying with ingame coins. Why don't we go back to why you are still stumped on our last argument why all your arguments boil down to "Just pay to avoid Pay to Win restrictions" You can google anything is pay to win sir, doesn't make you seem any smarter. Well save for the rather minor part about that game where you can actually convert cash directly into the in game currency. But I'm sure you knew that already :P

Propane

07.31.2013 , 07:46 PM \| #407	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by hadoken Well save for the rather minor part about that game where you can actually convert cash directly into the in game currency. But I'm sure you knew that already :P Yes you can, but did you mention the price it takes? If you want to pay 600$ just to get a few gold , thats fine because not everyone has 600$ they can pay on hand. WHILE IN SWTOR'S CASE, tons of people have 15 bucks on hand. So tons of people can afford to be better than those who play for free. But I'm sure you already knew that.

chuixupu

07.31.2013 , 07:51 PM \| #408	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Propane Welcome to the world of reading, he was posting about paying with ingame coins. Which have a real money conversion rate, welcome to the world of Guild Wars. Quote: Why don't we go back to why you are still stumped on our last argument why all your arguments boil down to "Just pay to avoid Pay to Win restrictions" Because that argument is based on a false premise. Pay to Win doesn't exist in the game. Might as well say we're paying to avoid giant blue rabbit restrictions. Quote: Originally Posted by Propane WHILE IN SWTOR'S CASE, tons of people have 15 bucks on hand. So tons of people can afford to be better than those who play for free. You mean like people who have $60 on hand to pay for Guild Wars 2.
Wardens of Fate / Alea Iacta Est The Tarkus Legacy ~ The Harbinger/Jedi Covenant

Propane

07.31.2013 , 07:54 PM \| #409	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by chuixupu Because that argument is based on a false premise. Pay to Win doesn't exist in the game. Might as well say we're paying to avoid giant blue rabbit restrictions. Those "blue rabbit" restrictions in swtor are gameplay changing. Payments should only be used to broaden the gaming experience without affecting the gameplay itself. Free players experience a TOTALLY different version of swtor. The demo version that "allows" them to get to 50 if they can stand through the restrictions. So the only way to try and get out of that argument was "YOU'RE WRONG AND I'M RIGHT! LETS JUST SAY IT DOESN'T EXIST SO I'M RIGHT"

BUBBUH

07.31.2013 , 07:56 PM \| #410	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by hadoken Well save for the rather minor part about that game where you can actually convert cash directly into the in game currency. But I'm sure you knew that already :P Whoa, i can grind for hours on end, to remove restrictions that never needed to be added in the first place? This is like saying "you can stop swtor from pissing its own pants, just grind for 6 months!" And even then, you only get a WoW ripoff. You are one malicious person.
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