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Electronet and Force Barrier...
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GatorAndy
07.30.2013 , 08:56 AM | #11
Are you saying you are channeling force barrier and then BH throws electro net on you? Or are you trying to use force barrier after electro net is on you already?

If the former, I would think it would protect you. The later, not so much. As the barrier is a defensive measure, I would take that to mean it must be used in advance.

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HelinCarnate
07.30.2013 , 09:07 AM | #12
Electro Net ensnares a single target, reducing its movement speed and dealing periodic Energy damage which increases over time if the target is moving. While Electro Net is active, the target is also hindered and unable to activate high mobility actions and escapes, such as speed boosts, vanishes, and charges.

The term "such as" includes examples but does not necessarily mean those are the only things that are affected. It is working as intended. The only fix I would expect would be to update the tooltips to clarify.
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Ghost_Spectre
07.30.2013 , 09:12 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by wildcoast View Post
The key words you are missing are "while channeled".. electronet is preventing you from activating the channeling, thus it's working as intended...
If the tool tip did not say, "Can be used while controlled," then I would agree with you. However, it does say that. Therefore, Force Barrier by tool tip definition should break Electro Net. Electro Net is bugged when it comes to Force Barrier. Force Barrier is the one defense that Sages & Sorcerers have to protect themselves from all control measures, damage, and CCs per definition. I cannot understand why people want to argue that Electro Net is the one power that can defeat it when it is not an escape, but defensive measure.
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Ghost_Spectre
07.30.2013 , 09:14 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by GatorAndy View Post
Are you saying you are channeling force barrier and then BH throws electro net on you? Or are you trying to use force barrier after electro net is on you already?

If the former, I would think it would protect you. The later, not so much. As the barrier is a defensive measure, I would take that to mean it must be used in advance.
As I posted to the person above you, you can use it even when controlled. Electro Net is a Crowd Control measure. Force Barrier is designed to counter ALL CCs before application or after.
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Ansalem
07.30.2013 , 09:20 AM | #15
Wasn't joking when I said working as intended. It effectively blocks you from using it. It may not state specifically force barrier in the tooltip for electronet but thats because they cant list every ability it blocks or it would be too spammy in the tooltip. What you are perceiving force barrer as and how it actually works are two different things. It is working as intended.

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Ansalem
07.30.2013 , 09:22 AM | #16
Also I believe the counter to this is to use your actual cc break then force barrier. Once the disabling part is removed you can use your bubble

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Ghost_Spectre
07.30.2013 , 09:29 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by HelinCarnate View Post
Electro Net ensnares a single target, reducing its movement speed and dealing periodic Energy damage which increases over time if the target is moving. While Electro Net is active, the target is also hindered and unable to activate high mobility actions and escapes, such as speed boosts, vanishes, and charges.

The term "such as" includes examples but does not necessarily mean those are the only things that are affected. It is working as intended. The only fix I would expect would be to update the tooltips to clarify.
While what you state may be true, the fact that the tool tip for Electro Net specifically mentions "high mobility and escapes," prior to "such as" (meaning examples) means that it should not stop Force Barrier from activating and countering that Crowd Control Measure.

If they do change the tool tip to indicate that Electro Net can do this, they will have to change it from a CC to specific attack ability with secondary affects. Furthermore, the tool tip for Force Barrier will have to state that it cannot break Electro Net. They do that, then they'll have to include anything that is similar in nature to Electro Net, such as slows, roots, and snares that are associated with attack powers. In other words, they will render Force Barrier a near useless defensive measure from what it original was intended to do.

I cannot believe they intended Electro Net to be the ultimate CC that nothing can break it. And before you say, use your CC breaker on it, I did and it did not break it. And yes, my CC breaker was available and it, like Force Barrier went on cool down.
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Ghost_Spectre
07.30.2013 , 09:31 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Ansalem View Post
Also I believe the counter to this is to use your actual cc break then force barrier. Once the disabling part is removed you can use your bubble
I did try that as I just mentioned; however, it did not break Electro Net. It just went on cooldown.
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Ghost_Spectre
07.30.2013 , 09:36 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Ansalem View Post
What you are perceiving force barrer as and how it actually works are two different things. It is working as intended.
Am I? The tool tip is very specific in what it stops, that is ALL measures of control. Electro Net is a CC. Creeping Terror has an immediate root. When I have Force Barrier up, I have been hit with it by a Sorc, it does not affect me. Creeping Terror is specific in what it does; however, it fails to affect someone with Force Barrier up. Electro Net is specific in what it affects (high mobility and escapes and then lists examples). Force Barrier is a defensive measure meant to counter damage, stuns, and CCs. There's no misconceptions on my part. My reading comprehension is spot on.
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Ansalem
07.30.2013 , 09:39 AM | #20
find it odd as I have tested this with guildies and used it in pvp myself and seen people cc break my net to remove the impairing part and then bubble. Also snipers roll will remove the impairing part but the dot remains ticking for dmg. Hell this morning I had someone cc break my net to remove the impair and run off with the dot ticking.