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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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TridusSWTOR
07.28.2013 , 01:51 PM | #2481
Quote: Originally Posted by ekwalizer View Post
You should do the same.

No one here is telling you how to PLAY the game. We are just saying that you need to play within the current rules and stop trying to get them changed simply because you don't like that particular aspect.
Back to sprint not being at level 1.

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TridusSWTOR
07.28.2013 , 01:53 PM | #2482
Quote: Originally Posted by ekwalizer View Post
But I suppose the world does in fact revolve around you?
Don't like your AC? YOu already have the same option as everyone else. Roll a new toon.
Just because you don't want to do that, doesn't negate it as a perfectly viable option.
If a person changed their AC, how would it affect your gameplay?

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ImperialSun
07.28.2013 , 02:06 PM | #2483
[QUOTE=branmakmuffin;6601121]Who said they didn't?


Being opposed to it per se is not irrational. Trying to turn "opinion" into "objective fact" is irrational. If you're not doing that, then you're not being irrational about this.


Face it. BWEA can change the game to allow AC swap any time they want. Like others, you are offering "It's always been this way" as a reason why it should always be this way. That is irrational. The way it is and has been has nothing to do with whether or not changing it is a good idea.


You should reply to what someone actually writes rather spinning it so that it makes your reply easier. You know it as well as I do.

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Its just a game dude
It is just a game, dude. Which is why there is no rational reason for people to get so angry over this.
You are absolutely correct...BW can change it any time they like. For clarity I have never said dont change it because its always been like that...i am dealing with this specific request...which BW considered before launch and decided it was a bad idea....they then considered it again post launch and guess what...they still chose not to add it.

I think AC swapping is a bad idea for a number of reasons and BW seem to agree...otherwise they would have added it at any one of the previous opportunities...

Driz

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MajikMyst
07.28.2013 , 02:08 PM | #2484
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
So no one should ever lobby to get game mechanics changed. Well, at least we're clear on your attitude.

It is one thing to lobby to get the mechanics changed.. It is quite another to insult, belittle and harass those that disagree with you..

The few people in this thread that are Pro-AC are less than civil and less than honest.. Our words are constantly being miss represented, we are constantly being insulted, we spend most of our time have to re-explain our own words because they have been twisted to say things we never said.. You want proof or reasons or explanations.. Try reading for a change... Type less and read more..

You do not want to acknowledge any reason or point made by the people that do not want AC swapping.. You blow them off and then accuse us of doing things we did not do.. Like tell you how to play your game..

You want to lobby for something.. Then learn to defend your views without being a jerk to those that disagree with you.. The people that do not want AC swapping have put up with insult after insult.. Our words are twisted, we have to repeat ourselves over and over again.. We have to make the same points over and over again.. We are constantly asked for proof or reasons when they were given over 100 times in this thread alone.. Try not ignoring them for a change.. Try to actually understand what is being said..

This post was directed in general to the few people that are pro-AC.. Nobody specific is being singled out..
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ImperialSun
07.28.2013 , 02:11 PM | #2485
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
Yes, no one can stop you from being a petulant child if you so choose.
So when you want something we have to accept it....and are not allowed to challenge it....

If we disagree or dont like the idea we are petulent children...riiiigghht...

An interesting point of view...

Im still waiting for somebody to present any form of proof that AC switching is even on the table for inclusion.....a soft no from months ago constitutes nothing and BW dont seem to have ever mentioned it again...

Driz

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LordArtemis
07.28.2013 , 02:12 PM | #2486
This thread in no way represents a majority on either side.

I also think that a portion of reasonable folks in this thread have presented reasons they personally oppose or support AC change without demanding everyone else agree with their views.

It is only a small portion of this discussion's participants that require compliance with their opinions....and by constant bickering back and forth do next to nothing, IMO, to further their positions.

I think I have demonstrated that, though I do not support AC change I am willing to discuss, and even in some cases begrudgingly accept it's addition with the Pro change side. I have even posted examples of AC change that folks have suggested so everyone can clearly see what is being proposed, with my slant of course as a follow on.

In the end it is truly Bioware's decision. I for one hope they choose to keep it out of the game. I would like to see MORE meaning applied to AC in fact. But again, I have to digress to the majority if this is something the playerbase would desire. I would not force my play desire on others.

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branmakmuffin
07.28.2013 , 02:13 PM | #2487
Quote: Originally Posted by ImperialSun View Post
You are absolutely correct...BW can change it any time they like. For clarity I have never said dont change it because its always been like that...i am dealing with this specific request...which BW considered before launch and decided it was a bad idea....they then considered it again post launch and guess what...they still chose not to add it.
And you are still offering "because it's always been this way" as a reason to not change it.

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I think AC swapping is a bad idea for a number of reasons and BW seem to agree...otherwise they would have added it at any one of the previous opportunities.
You have no idea why they have not added it. Maybe it's technically difficult.

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ShadessaWayland
07.28.2013 , 02:18 PM | #2488
Reroll is very normal by alot of mmorpg they sell item ad cash shop and you can change your class

and trust me alot of pll do that becouse most dont like what they pick first
also bring some cash to the companie

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MajikMyst
07.28.2013 , 02:20 PM | #2489
Quote: Originally Posted by ImperialSun
You are absolutely correct...BW can change it any time they like. For clarity I have never said dont change it because its always been like that...i am dealing with this specific request...which BW considered before launch and decided it was a bad idea....they then considered it again post launch and guess what...they still chose not to add it.
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
And you are still offering "because it's always been this way" as a reason to not change it.
See.. This is exactly what I am talking about.. No bran.. Sun is not offering a 'because it's always been this way..' reason not to change it.. Read his post.. It is right there...

Like I said.. We spend so much time having to re-explain what we said..
Who is the more foolish? The fool or the fool that follows him?

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DAMossimo
07.28.2013 , 02:25 PM | #2490
I have yet to read a compelling reason for the devs to devote time and money into this feature for any other reason that does not end with the tagline: "...because I don't want to roll another character".

The question to ask is: Will it make EA more money? Maybe, but they will also make money reselling unlocks when you have to roll a new character, as well as character slots from the CM in some cases. With this in mind, I fail to see the upside for them to offer such a shortcut, unless it was prohibitively expensive.

To date, I've seen a laundry list of reasons people claim as reasons to unsub/quit from the game, but not once have I seen someone claiming they will do so over the lack of AC switching. If they did, no one would take them seriously anyway.