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Kaggath Heats - Ascending Empire vs Alliance of Worlds

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Kaggath Heats - Ascending Empire vs Alliance of Worlds

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Aurbere
07.27.2013 , 05:42 PM | #1031
Quote: Originally Posted by LadyKulvax View Post
Good debate everybody, and Aurbere, we did it my friend.
Yes we did. Thank you so very much for the help. I swear to pay you back in your match.

If I were a Wookiee I would swear a life debt to you.
Added Chapter 66 to The Shadows Fall
"Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

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Warren-Stride
07.27.2013 , 05:51 PM | #1032
Can't say I'm surprised with the outcome.
~~ AiR ~~
What are you more afraid of?
A weapon that could destroy you?
Or a weapon that could turn you into a monster?

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Selenial
07.27.2013 , 05:53 PM | #1033
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
Yes we did. Thank you so very much for the help. I swear to pay you back in your match.

If I were a Wookiee I would swear a life debt to you.
Unless it's against me...
Then you'll be nice.... Right?

Right?

Pretty please?
We all live or die as Krayt wills, Stryfe. At his word, I would cut out my own heart. Or yours.
CelÚna Mercenary Cathinka Seeliara Sage

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Aurbere
07.27.2013 , 05:56 PM | #1034
Quote: Originally Posted by Selenial View Post
Unless it's against me...
Then you'll be nice.... Right?

Right?

Pretty please?
We'll find out won't we?
Added Chapter 66 to The Shadows Fall
"Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

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Selenial
07.27.2013 , 06:08 PM | #1035
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
We'll find out won't we?
*Runs off crying*
We all live or die as Krayt wills, Stryfe. At his word, I would cut out my own heart. Or yours.
CelÚna Mercenary Cathinka Seeliara Sage

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Aurbere
07.27.2013 , 06:15 PM | #1036
Quote: Originally Posted by Selenial View Post
*Runs off crying*
Don't worry. I don't think it will be you against Rayla.
Added Chapter 66 to The Shadows Fall
"Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

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tunewalker
07.27.2013 , 07:28 PM | #1037
OK I have not read anything since I last posted so don't know if this has been called just wanted to say first sorry about most of my nonsensical rants before I stayed up all night thinking beni was going to call it then since he said he was before rayla logged off and had made posts at 3 AM for me over here so figured he was doing it then thus Sleep deprived tune makes stupid.... here is the real final argument



What rayla was saying about the tactic for the AE was spot on but Obi-wan isn't likely to use this tactic only Garm. So what Obi-wan would be facing at rendili is exactly what I said before he would lose pretty hard there, but retreat back still having dealt a good amount of damadge to wedges ship


At brentaal the Strident and a few ships would head to Arkania and again Luke will still no Garm is coming do to the scout ships...... Garm has a bit better tactics then Luke and Luke will be unprepared for the ramming thing garm will do taking out the planetary defenses and some of Lukes best ships, Luke will still have more then a sufficient force to hold Garm off and Garm will still back off after dealing Luke's fleet a crippling blow. Part of the issue with Garm's best ships is the bridge tower is a noticeable weak point on the ship that fighters can hit or run into and have shown doing so is massively effective and have been known to do so. This is a weakness the GA fleet does not have as they recognized it and build the bridges less sticking out making them impervious to this. All in all it succeeds at doing exactly what Rayla wanted evening the odds of the fleets leaving both to lick their wounds.


Mothma and Leia will see the destruction though and call for the meeting to take place, we already went into so much with this so I wont really say any more, all in all even with out the Arkanian equipment many people (including myself obviously) were saying leia would be able to escape and she likely would, rather then stay and fight.

The kicker here is something have mentioned a few times but never in Length, during this treaty Wedge and Garm will talk and Wedge will pretty much tell Garm he was right about Mothma just look at the evidence Acending EMPIRE, IMPERIAL knights, the death watch ships and even Clone troopers or Storm troopers, and all the rebels that Garm considered friends are on the other side. Simply put Garm would defect if not because of Wedge talking he will come to this conclusion on his own. So mothma wont get support from her fleet or Garm will help the AoW get Corellia at least. I have mentioned it a few times just not in detail.


If this has been called in favor of the AE then I will not debate it further I wish I had one more day to counter an argument made at the last second but hey that's just lamenting and its my own failing for deciding to stay up all night and deprive myself of sleep in the final inning. Essentially what I am saying if I am to late is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UWx-shGM0g
" One more day
One more time
One more sunset, maybe I'd be satisfied
But then again
I know what it would do
Leave me wishing still, for one more day with you "

That said to who ever the victor is great work EVERYONE for making this incredible and such a good match, thank you to my opponents for giving my team one of the greatest matches I would ever hope for them to see, just wish if they don't go on that I knew how they would have faired against others.

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StarSquirrel
07.27.2013 , 08:24 PM | #1038
Congrats Aurbere, you faction is looking beastly right now. The fact that most of this revolved around a few leadership choices even though each side had massive armies is pretty cool. I hope I don't have to face you for a while... And good clean debates all around imo, nice work.

Also, longest/biggest Kaggath to date methinks, that's something to celebrate (or cower in fear of)
I know if you look deep into your heart- which is currently all over that tree- you'll find a way to forgive me.

Aww, geez you look like a puppy! A blonde, eviscerated puppy!

-Alucard

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tunewalker
07.28.2013 , 01:05 AM | #1039
Quote: Originally Posted by StarSquirrel View Post
Congrats Aurbere, you faction is looking beastly right now. The fact that most of this revolved around a few leadership choices even though each side had massive armies is pretty cool. I hope I don't have to face you for a while... And good clean debates all around imo, nice work.

Also, longest/biggest Kaggath to date methinks, that's something to celebrate (or cower in fear of)
Hey star I want to thank you personally I don't think I said it before but your response to this

"3. She also passed leadership onto Leia who was also just as capable of this, the big difference here is Corucant almost no one has ever gotten those people to fight. Not many people on Corucaunt are willing to pick up weapons and fight for any one. Also if we want to go into this Garm never trusted Mothma and broke from her early in the rebellion, even after he came back his suspicion of her trying to become the next emperor never really waned. With slicers I would have no problem festering this even further turning Garm against Mothma, and with a fellow Corellian on my side this becomes a bit easier to create disarray among your commanders long enough to topple them. Also there is one more reason people would flock to my army.... Wedge he wasn't just a brilliant strategist, he was the kind of commander people wanted to serve under, its one of his most defining attributes."

Litterally made my week possibly my whole month. The idea that I can actually form a coherent thought when I Do have a good head on my shoulders and to see some one say so at least ensures me that I am not entirely hopeless.

All in all thank you Star your nice words for that made so long ago now really touched me then and still makes me happy now.


That being said I am proud of how my troops preformed even with the massive handy cap of having me as their creator, some day I will win a debate here.... some day.

Edit: the only thing that makes me sad is they will never get to face off against any one else.... I am sure everyone who losses the first round will feel this way, that awwww it had so much more to offer.

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marcelo_sdk
07.28.2013 , 11:09 AM | #1040
I won't lie, didn't like the outcome. But some decision had to been made, and I can't provide any better scenarios for resolution, so good job Beni!