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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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branmakmuffin
07.27.2013 , 11:26 AM | #2331
Quote: Originally Posted by Spatology View Post
Making profit where it is warranted is fine. Expecting something for nothing is crazy talk.
Since the entire game is a totally optional endeavor on our part, the point you are trying to make is ... pointless.

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We pay a monthly sub, make it worth my money, stop trying to get more out of me....this tool if implanted should be free with subcriptions
If you got to the point where you felt your subscription was not worth what you pay, you would cancel your subscription, simple as that. That's we would all do if we got to that point. And any purchases for cosmetic and/or convenience features are entirely within your discreation. If you think they are a bad deal, don't buy them.

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You support a growing trend of gaming company greed...i ask why? Do you work in the industry?
No, I'm an adult capable of making my own decisions regarding when, where, how and why to spend my leisure time and money. If I were to feel ripped off in terms of the money I spend to play a game, I would stop spending that money. Does that not apply to you?

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TridusSWTOR
07.27.2013 , 11:26 AM | #2332
Quote: Originally Posted by Spatology View Post
Making profit where it is warranted is fine. Expecting something for nothing is crazy talk. We pay a monthly sub, make it worth my money, stop trying to get more out of me....this tool if implanted should be free with subcriptions...

You support a growing trend of gaming company greed...i ask why? Do you work in the industry?
The game went F2P, they are going to nickle-dime you. That is how it works in MMO's when they go F2P. The money has to come from somewhere.

Those guys that leveled a class to 45 or even level 12 put in effort. Because it doesn't meet other players view as "effort" doesn't mean it's any less. Horrible line of thinking.

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Spatology
07.27.2013 , 11:26 AM | #2333
Quote: Originally Posted by TridusSWTOR View Post
Yea they said they will probably(very likely) add this feature in the future. So, I'll let you stamp your feet until you come to terms with that.

Stop trying to tell other players how to play. It's as simple as that. You don't pay their sub, last time I checked.
No one is telling you how to play. We are discussing the pros and cons of an in game mechanic. What are you doing?

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Spatology
07.27.2013 , 11:28 AM | #2334
Quote: Originally Posted by TridusSWTOR View Post
The game went F2P, they are going to nickle-dime you. That is how it works in MMO's when they go F2P. The money has to come from somewhere.

Those guys that leveled a class to 45 or even level 12 put in effort. Because it doesn't meet other players view as "effort" doesn't mean it's any less. Horrible line of thinking.
Are you oblivious to the fact that a subscription is the desired goal under the current model? Otherwise what's the deal with all the penalties on preffered?

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TridusSWTOR
07.27.2013 , 11:28 AM | #2335
Quote: Originally Posted by Spatology View Post
What brand new player will level a character to high levels and then start changing stuff around to this degree. Completely change play style with brand new abilities....a new player needs these kinds of training wheels...

You people keep setting up hypothetical "walls" and I'll keep knocking them down.
Let's see, I'll take "Any and every player" for 500 alex. Once again, stop speaking for every player, it makes you look bad.

Not sure how else I can say this- You. Don't. Pay. For. Other. Players. Subs. Stop. Telling. Them. How. To. Play. The. Game.

I broke it down for you, I might have to break it down further to get the point across it seems. Hopefully it'll finally click in though....I doubt it.

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TridusSWTOR
07.27.2013 , 11:30 AM | #2336
Quote: Originally Posted by Spatology View Post
I already answered this question. Stop rehashing failed arguments.
That's the thing, you never answered it. Stop bringing up bad points and I'll keep bringing up questions that debunk and utterly destroy your argument, every time.

Damn, it's really hard for you answer that question, isn't it?

Gonna talk about other MMO's now? That's the backpedaling kicking in when you don't have a point.

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branmakmuffin
07.27.2013 , 11:30 AM | #2337
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
It is my business.
No, it is not any of your business how others play the game.

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I happen to like the fact that there is no AC change.
And you would never be forced to buy one. "Problem" solved.

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Currently BWEA's rules are no AC changes.
It's not a rule, it is, as has been stated already, a game mechanic, which can be changed should BWEA choose to do so.

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Brittaany_Banks
07.27.2013 , 11:32 AM | #2338
Quote: Originally Posted by Spatology View Post
Making profit where it is warranted is fine. Expecting something for nothing is crazy talk. We pay a monthly sub, make it worth my money, stop trying to get more out of me....this tool if implanted should be free with subcriptions...

You support a growing trend of gaming company greed...i ask why? Do you work in the industry?
What you call company greed I call a business model. These are not philanthropists I will have you know. They do not create these games and products for nothing just for your individual appeasement. There is a cost to do so because people need to get paid, and profits need to be earned for shareholders. One does not need to work in the industry of gaming to know this. One only needs to take a basic high school economics course.

So lay out for us what YOUR expectations for this game are because from what it sounds like, YOUR way would have this company go bankrupt in less than a year. How would THAT work out for your subscription?
Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later that debt is paid.

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TridusSWTOR
07.27.2013 , 11:32 AM | #2339
Quote: Originally Posted by Spatology View Post
No one is telling you how to play. We are discussing the pros and cons of an in game mechanic. What are you doing?
I am providing an option that quite a few players would like added.

I just looked at the last ten pages, you provided no pro's and cons to well...anything!

Please stop trying to act like you want an adult discussion and start trying to provide one.

You are still at the stage of telling players how they should play the game. Once you decide the world doesn't revolve around you, then we can move on to the next level. You see?

Baby steps man, baby steps.

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branmakmuffin
07.27.2013 , 11:36 AM | #2340
Quote: Originally Posted by TridusSWTOR View Post
I am providing an option that quite a few players would like added.

I just looked at the last ten pages, you provided no pro's and cons to well...anything!

Please stop trying to act like you want an adult discussion and start trying to provide one.

You are still at the stage of telling players how they should play the game. Once you decide the world doesn't revolve around you, then we can move on to the next level. You see?

Baby steps man, baby steps.
Maybe you feel the same, but I am fine with people simply saying "I don't like the idea of AC change" and leave it at that. That's an opinion of personal preference and I can't argue with that. But apparently they feel the need to turn their opinions into objective fact.