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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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branmakmuffin
07.27.2013 , 08:57 AM | #2311
Quote: Originally Posted by BlackSpin View Post
It is others' business... getting stuff for nothing effects other players.
If they let it bother them, sure.

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God, this generation of MMO players have been handed everything on a silver platter.
And apparently the "old" generation is all about telling others how to play.

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There used to be uniqueness in MMO games, and a sense of accomplishment.
That sense of accomplishment comes from inside you.

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"Dude, look that guy has that ****** sword, title, rank..." ...whatever. It keeps people playing and striving for the hard to obtain.
If you have to "work" for it and I buy it off the CM, that doesn't negate the fact that you "worked" for it. What you really are arguing for is that it be evident to others that you "worked" for it, not simply that you "worked" for it.

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All I'm saying is accomplishments don't mean anything anymore... they should.
It's just a game, dude, just a game. You play your way, let others play their way.

Such petulance is understandable in young children. Not so much in adults.

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BlackSpin
07.27.2013 , 09:14 AM | #2312
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
If they let it bother them, sure.
That sense of accomplishment comes from inside you....
What you are describing is a single player game. This goes against everything an MMO stands for. Maybe you should rethink your choice.

Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
Such petulance is understandable in young children. Not so much in adults.
It's not petulance, it's called competition and the satisfaction of earning something, which is the foundation of every MMO. As an adult I haven't lost that drive for competition yet... and hope I never do.

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Soluss
07.27.2013 , 09:37 AM | #2313
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
Possibly, but such "problems" could hardly be more inconsequential. I can say it again if it will help: It's a game and it's none of your business how another person plays as long as he or she is not breaking BWEA's rules.
It is my business. I happen to like the fact that there is no AC change. I think its good for the game. Would I rage quit if they change it? Nope, but I will speak my mind about it. So maybe you should stay out of my business. Currently BWEA's rules are no AC changes.
James Ohlen: " For 2012 we really want players to feel like they're getting their money's worth. You're going to see so many changes and additions to the Star Wars Universe. It's going to be impressive. We have our Update 1.2 coming in the next week and then after that it's going to continue to roll out month after month. It's exciting."

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branmakmuffin
07.27.2013 , 09:40 AM | #2314
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
You know what I mean. Currently BWEA's rules are no AC changes.
That's not a rule any more than BHs' inability to use light sabers is a rule or lack of free-roaming, high-flying mounts is a rule.

Quote: Originally Posted by BlackSpin View Post
What you are describing is a single player game. This goes against everything an MMO stands for. Maybe you should rethink your choice.
What MMOs stand for is "fun," since they are games. Maybe you should re-think your stance on wanting to tell others how to have fun.

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It's not petulance
It is. Look up "petulance."

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It's called competition
While AC is as much a part of PvP as it is of PvE, the same reasoning applies re: AC change whether it's PvP or PvE: it's none of your business how others choose to play the game as long as they are not harassing you (and follow BWEA's other rules).

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and the satisfaction of earning something, which is the foundation of every MMO.
Again, the foundation of every MMO is "fun." If you feel you are "earning" something playing a game, you are taking things a wee bit too seriously.

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As an adult I haven't lost that drive for competition yet... and hope I never do.
An adult recognizes that some people do not do things the way he or she does and does not insist that everyone else adhere to his or her notions of "fun."

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Soluss
07.27.2013 , 09:42 AM | #2315
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Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
That's not a rule any more than BHs' inability to use light sabers is a rule or lack of free-roaming, high-flying mounts is a rule.
Uh, yes it is. Its a game mechanic. You can consider it a rule.
James Ohlen: " For 2012 we really want players to feel like they're getting their money's worth. You're going to see so many changes and additions to the Star Wars Universe. It's going to be impressive. We have our Update 1.2 coming in the next week and then after that it's going to continue to roll out month after month. It's exciting."

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branmakmuffin
07.27.2013 , 09:49 AM | #2316
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
Uh, yes it is. Its a game mechanic. You can consider it a rule.
Uh, no it's not. A game mechanic is not a rule, it's a game mechanic.

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TridusSWTOR
07.27.2013 , 11:02 AM | #2317
Quote: Originally Posted by Spatology View Post
Players get a full understanding of their roll and playstyle at level one. Again, there are only 4 really diffrent playstyle mechanics here....what dont you get?

No, bioware shouldnt be getting money for namechanges, appearance changes, and the like. Micro transactions traditionally had additional cost because they required human oversight. These are ingame systems they programmed that require ZERO man hours to maintain. I will not support more greed.
Wow, I love how you assume because you know how MMO's are. That a person playing an MMO for the first time, will magically know everything at level 1.

Good job at making a full display of your ignorance.

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TridusSWTOR
07.27.2013 , 11:05 AM | #2318
Quote: Originally Posted by Hockaday View Post
But really, you know what you're getting at level 10.
Gonna have to stop you there. "lol" as you put it.

So a person brand new to a MMO is supposed to know how their class plays out at level 10? I guess we must have many prophets among us, can you tell me who they are? I want to win the lotto.

Nice job assuming and trying to speak for the entire playerbase because of what you think. Once again, Anti-AC change can only provide selfishness, greed and arrogance. It's been displayed many times over.

Come back when you actually have something to discuss, instead of poorly attempting to speak for other players.

You have been debunked.

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branmakmuffin
07.27.2013 , 11:08 AM | #2319
Quote: Originally Posted by Spatology View Post
No, bioware shouldnt be getting money for namechanges, appearance changes, and the like. Micro transactions traditionally had additional cost because they required human oversight. These are ingame systems they programmed that require ZERO man hours to maintain. I will not support more greed.
And if AC change were made available for CC (which we all know would be the case), no one's gonna force you to buy it.

And furthermore ...

"For-profit company seeks to make profit. Also, dogs have fleas and water is wet. Film at 11:00."

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TridusSWTOR
07.27.2013 , 11:12 AM | #2320
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst View Post
In fact every AC plays exactly the same at level 10 (Or when you first choose your AC.) than they do at level 55.. The only difference is more skills.. A Sentinel doesn't suddenly stop swinging dual lightsabers and being mele DPS.. A Sentinel is a dual wielding mele DPS from level 10 all the way to 55.. They just get more skills..

To make the claim that you don't know how your character plays at level 45 is really not true.. How can you not know?? The play style for your class doesn't change..

What is the difference?? :)
Time to break down the ignorance.

So a player that is new to an MMO is going to know how every AC plays out at level 10? Oh wow, nice job speaking for every new player and telling them how to play.

Second, It's sad that I have to explain to people how your class comes full bloom at level 45. "OH melee dps is melee dps herp derp" as you say. Well sin DPS requires you to be behind the enemy and sents don't require proper positioning. Also one gets stealth and the other doesn't. I guess they know about all these factors though and how big of a part they play in the end game level.

Once again, you are trolling. This entire post you have yet to offer a solution. Instead you ask me to educate you on how MMO's work and how AC's work. I should start charging.

You have been debunked, I lost count how many times now.