ETA on Advanced Class change?

lol

I rest my case..

He does want to make up his own rules.. He wants AC swapping.. That is not currently allowed in the game.. Why are you so oblivious to the obvious??

As for the rest of your post??

I know you are but what am I..

I am guessing that is a response you will understand..

So now you are cherry-picking.

When you state something affects others, it has to be across the board. Also, someone playing their character the way they want, is fine in my book. Last time I checked, none of us paid their sub. It's players like you that choose to affect other players with personal beliefs and what you determine is "fun".

It takes a player to reach 40-45 to get a full grasp on how there AC is going to play out in the future. That's way too long and they should be allowed a chance to change. If you deny this, you are trolling.

Oh look, another post just providing insults. How typical.

I'm glad you can't answer a simple question. Since you just proved you are wrong in everything you say. Nice job on that.

Come back when you want to talk like an adult, the grown-ups are talking now.

He's not trying to "enforce his rules" on others. He is arguing for BW NOT to change the rules BW set, not him.

He is pointing out that those who want class changes are asking for the rules in place to be changed to suit their desires without regard to how those changes will affect others.


Again, choosing your class at level 11 does not affect others, but CHANGING that class at level 55 DOES affect others, and you have been arguing for allowing class changes up to level 55.

Asking for the rules already set in place by the devs not to be changed is not the same as wanting everyone play "his" way.

If you can't provide a response to the points I made, I accept that you concede on all points in this discussion. You have one reply left to redeem yourself.

I love how he doesn't deny that he wants to enforce his idea's and rules on other players as well. Good job on that.

I provide choice, you provide....well nothing.

So you are saying he wants to make sure players have no choice in how they want to play? I guess we should remove sprint at level 1, since that is something bioware had as a rule when the game started.

Once again, read up about sprint. Also, once again, a player changing AC affects nobody but the player. So I guess we should remove field respec, because if someone respecs during a FP, well it's ruining the game! Horrible logic, is horrible.

Again, you choose to make blanket statements and then backpedal to regain your postion. It's obvious and pathetic. Next time don't make blanket statements and they won't come back at you. Like I said before, AC change only affects the player that does it. You can't prove me wrong.

He wants sprint at level 1 removed guys. Let's get rid of it.

I provide choice, you two don't. That's the meat of it.

You provide your ideals, beliefs, greed, arrogance of how the game should be played according to you guys and enforce it on other players. Back to no sprint at level 1 according to your laws.

Just hope the next level cap doesn't come anytime soon.

Software monkeys messing around with class trees with why I left WOW so hope Bioware does it better than Blizzard.

Apparently we will not be able to come to an agreed upon compromise, so I guess the best thing to do is to leave things the way they were designed by BW, not any players, NO class changes allowed. You decision is PERMANENT as you were advised multiple times when you made that decision.

Allowing class changes 2 times is too many, IMO. Those who are going change classes are going to do so because they do not like their chosen class, so why allow them to change back if they don't like the class in the first place? Allowing class changes with little or no drawback (a high CC or credit cost is little drawback, if any) would be a mistake, IMO.

If they are going to allow class changes, it should not be a trivial decision. Class changes should come with enough restrictions or "penalties for being able to skip the leveling process to play another class" that it requires some serious thought and consideration.

This is one of the reasons I suggested the restrictions that I did. The restrictions I suggested will allow those who have unique and no longer obtainable items to keep them on their "main" while helping to alleviate the most major concerns of those against class changes.

Actually, I'm NOT cherry picking. I'm showing the whole basket of cherries. You were the one cherry picking when you asked only about a level 11 character CHOOSING his class, not CHANGING his class.


When you state something is NOT going to affect others, that has to be across the board, as well.

The fact that player A pays his subscription and does not find activity x to be "fun" does not give him the right to change the rules to suit himself so he can get the rewards he would gain from activity X without actually doing activity X, nor does it give player the right to tell player B that player B still has to do activity Y to get the rewards from activity Y. This is what you have been doing. You are arguing for changing the rules to allow class changes since many don't find going leveling "fun" and at the same time you are arguing against allowing players to have BIS gear without doing ops even if that player does not find OPS "fun".

That's a very good reason to reset a character to level 10 if they change their class. It will give that player those 3-35 levels to become accustomed the new skills they would be getting at the rate intended by the devs.

Of the two of us (you and I), which one is arguing for the currently existing rules set in place by BW to be changed? I'll give you a hint-it's not me.

Regarding class changing affecting others, it has already been explained multiple times how allowing class changes WILL affect others and not just the player changing class, but I'm guessing that you either missed them or ignored them because they do not mesh with your desires.