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lorddahl
07.24.2013 , 03:33 AM | #721
bis 72s minus 1 power acc enhancement
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ckoneful
07.24.2013 , 04:36 AM | #722
So... if you take all the top parses for each class and order them by best dps you get this:

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So, why are VG/PT and Ops/Scoundrels considered bad dps and shouldn't be taken to Ops if they're #2 and #3 overall? Not saying you folks reading this thread wouldn't, just why is this the general consensus ingame?
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paowee
07.24.2013 , 08:38 AM | #723
Quote: Originally Posted by ckoneful View Post
So... if you take all the top parses for each class and order them by best dps you get this:

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So, why are VG/PT and Ops/Scoundrels considered bad dps and shouldn't be taken to Ops if they're #2 and #3 overall? Not saying you folks reading this thread wouldn't, just why is this the general consensus ingame?
Old habits die hard

oh and not many people can play those classes at those levels, i would guess.

p.s. guys OP is not updating the parses anymore! @guy 2 posts above
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ScytheEleven
07.24.2013 , 08:49 AM | #724
Quote: Originally Posted by ckoneful View Post
So... if you take all the top parses for each class and order them by best dps you get this:

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So, why are VG/PT and Ops/Scoundrels considered bad dps and shouldn't be taken to Ops if they're #2 and #3 overall? Not saying you folks reading this thread wouldn't, just why is this the general consensus ingame?
Part of the frustration for VG/PT's is that in order to compete, you have to go Hybrid. Full tree AP/Tactics can be good, but is still behind other AC's and is hurt by the lack of some kind of execute tree talent (i.e. something like "Increases internal damage by 30% to enemies who are under 30% health). Full tree Pyro/Assault is a joke in PVE (and not to mention PVP).

I know many will say "well just run hybrid then and stop QQ'ing", but compared to Maras/Sents and Snipers/Slingers who have three viable trees to choose from (not to mention the hybrid spec for Snipers/Slingers), it gets a bit frustrating that you are essentially pigeon-holed into one specific build. So when people say "Buff PT/VG DPS!", we really mean "Hey, buff AP/Tactics just a bit, and buff the crap out of Pyro/Assault".

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JDotter
07.24.2013 , 10:04 AM | #725
Quote: Originally Posted by ckoneful View Post
So... if you take all the top parses for each class and order them by best dps you get this:

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So, why are VG/PT and Ops/Scoundrels considered bad dps and shouldn't be taken to Ops if they're #2 and #3 overall? Not saying you folks reading this thread wouldn't, just why is this the general consensus ingame?
People spend hours beating on a test dummy to get those numbers. People also are delusional and have to have the "FOTM" class to feel in place. One of the main reasons I respect/like DILIH so much is they don't give a **** have cleared content fast and run a PT/jugg dps.

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Gyronamics
07.24.2013 , 11:52 AM | #726
Quote: Originally Posted by ckoneful View Post
So... if you take all the top parses for each class and order them by best dps you get this:

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So, why are VG/PT and Ops/Scoundrels considered bad dps and shouldn't be taken to Ops if they're #2 and #3 overall? Not saying you folks reading this thread wouldn't, just why is this the general consensus ingame?
People should be banned from making simple comparisons which are incorrect.

Armour debuffs are not present for all of those, 30% effects are not present either.

The armour debuff however adds the most damage.

#1 already has a debuff present but will gain an execute for a slight increase

#2, 3, 4, 6, 8 significant increase in damage from debuff and execute if applicable

#5 and 7 are already capped and will be pushed down as the others gain


The other matter is how easily dummy whacking translates into damage in a raid.
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Falver
07.24.2013 , 05:36 PM | #727
This thread is now officially defunct. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=664980
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ssfish
07.24.2013 , 07:15 PM | #728
Quote: Originally Posted by Gyronamics View Post
People should be banned from making simple comparisons which are incorrect.

Armour debuffs are not present for all of those, 30% effects are not present either.

The armour debuff however adds the most damage.

#1 already has a debuff present but will gain an execute for a slight increase

#2, 3, 4, 6, 8 significant increase in damage from debuff and execute if applicable

#5 and 7 are already capped and will be pushed down as the others gain


The other matter is how easily dummy whacking translates into damage in a raid.
I've already explained once why this is not accurate, though it may have been in the Harbinger thread. Pre-30%, Juggernauts get to use V.Throw on a 20 second cooldown. Sub-30%, it's on it's normal cooldown of 6 seconds, with a total of 4 every 20 seconds. This is not an insignificant DPS increase.

I will allow that Juggs are closer to "capped" than any class other than Mercs, but they are not running dummy parses at 100% of their potential, despite what Austin said on some website or anorther around 2.0 launch.
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countpopeula
07.25.2013 , 11:07 PM | #729
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