EA Q1 2014: SWTOR Income Growth

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DarthTHC

07.24.2013 , 11:31 AM \| #61	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthMaulUK You forgot to mention - "All content, subscription and free-to-play on SWTOR was up over last year, and the subscription based business was down 25% as more switched to free-to-play." So despite everything, subs are still falling. After their previous post, puts the numbers at a lowly 350-375k. Free trials and the 'free' to play is clearly not attracting people. Frankly, they should either reduce the fee to �4.99 a month to attract more, or just turn everything free to play and use the cartel market to drive revenue. A world with both wont work. "Switched to free-to-play" is an interesting way they can put things now that the game has a f2p element. Even if the player never logs in or spends another dime, they're never a former player. They're just "free to play". I wonder how many of that 25% subscription drop is people who subscribed for the expansion (rapid subscription gain reported last quarter) and then played it through and cancelled - the MMO "locusts".

Vandicus

07.24.2013 , 11:36 AM \| #62	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC "Switched to free-to-play" is an interesting way they can put things now that the game has a f2p element. Even if the player never logs in or spends another dime, they're never a former player. They're just "free to play". I wonder how many of that 25% subscription drop is people who subscribed for the expansion (rapid subscription gain reported last quarter) and then played it through and cancelled - the MMO "locusts". I believe the person you're quoting was incorrectly paraphrasing. The 25% drop in revenue for subscriptions as compared to the same period last year is the only thing similar to his statement that I could find.
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DarthTHC

07.24.2013 , 11:38 AM \| #63	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Vandicus I believe the person you're quoting was incorrectly paraphrasing. The 25% drop in revenue for subscriptions as compared to the same period last year is the only thing similar to his statement that I could find. Ah, ok. That makes more sense I guess.

curtkram

07.24.2013 , 11:44 AM \| #64	Quote
here is another perspective http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2013/07/...year-forecast/ Quote: The company hasn�t released detailed reports about its �Star Wars: The Old Republic� large fantasy game made for PCs for a while. But EA did say it recorded revenue ahead of internal estimates, with an average of approximately 1 million people actively playing the game each month. you can believe whatever you want. this is what the wall street journal believes.

Angedechu

07.24.2013 , 12:01 PM \| #65	Quote
1 million people playing each month would be extremely impressive if those were subbers.... ...but this figure can include people that are masochists and not paying a cent.

curtkram

07.24.2013 , 12:06 PM \| #66	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Angedechu 1 million people playing each month would be extremely impressive if those were subbers.... ...but this figure can include people that are masochists and not paying a cent. it could include player's companions for all know. i wonder how many of that approximately a million is an HK droid?

Pietrastor

07.24.2013 , 12:19 PM \| #67	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Angedechu 1 million people playing each month would be extremely impressive if those were subbers.... ...but this figure can include people that are masochists and not paying a cent. EA revealed that sub number is close to 500k in their previous report so the rest is obviously F2P/Preferred players

_tegrof

07.24.2013 , 12:29 PM \| #68	Quote
Interesting.... Check the population trends. They are still declining. Income increasing doesn't really mean the game itself is growing, people are just spending money on the CM. Just sayin'
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Angedechu

07.24.2013 , 12:36 PM \| #69	Quote
No, I was just saying that ''1 million people playing'' is meaningless when those people range from subbers to freeloaders. (Needless to say, EA totally does not care about people paying and not playing) BTW, one of the hidden goals of F2P was to introduce the game to masses of players and get new subs with extended d�mos. If this is the game, F2P failed, and massively, since the number of subbers is certainly not increasing.

chuixupu

07.24.2013 , 12:39 PM \| #70	Quote
Looking at Torstatus, the population seems like it's been fairly stable for the whole of this year. There is a slight drop since the summer started, but that's somewhat expected with the combination of vacation and no major content updates since Makeb.
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