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are we skipping bosses now?


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HigeeSnali
07.21.2013 , 11:21 AM | #21
I'm really sick of getting stuck with a group of L55s that skip everything, five times this week we've had a L55 tank in a group with lower levels that left when we asked to kill the other bosses or do the bonus because we need the XP or gear , really wish they would stop L55s from doing 50 flashpoints with under 55s. After a 20+ minute wait for a tank on Jedi Covenant I really don't want one to drop because he wants to just get it done fast and can't be bothered to explain to people how an EASY fight is done
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Mikroswitch
07.21.2013 , 11:57 AM | #22
The problem of 55's doing HM50 FP's now should less of a problem as they do not now count towards to the weekly HM55 conflict quest so less will Q for then unless they are farming something.

As a Tank I will be happy to run a full HM50 as long as rest of he group are happy to "space" the inane VO cutscenes, but saying this I am less inclined to Q GF for 50's unless I'm helping a guildie.
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Ayakin_Solaris
07.21.2013 , 12:01 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by HigeeSnali View Post
I'm really sick of getting stuck with a group of L55s that skip everything, five times this week we've had a L55 tank in a group with lower levels that left when we asked to kill the other bosses or do the bonus because we need the XP or gear , really wish they would stop L55s from doing 50 flashpoints with under 55s. After a 20+ minute wait for a tank on Jedi Covenant I really don't want one to drop because he wants to just get it done fast and can't be bothered to explain to people how an EASY fight is done
The gear from the HM lvl 50 FPs becomes obsolete very quickly and as for XP, there are a myriad of ways to get extra XP; it's easy to get from 50 to 55 without running any FPs.

Also, people at level 55 want to run the lvl 50 FPs to get basic comms to get isotope-5 to then craft/trade for the 72 gear. There are generally more lvl 55s running the lvl 50 FPs than there are people at levels 50-55 from what I've seen.

Even if you skip some of the bosses, you're still going to get 2-3 loot drops in the FP and the level 55 isn't going to need any of them. Besides, the drops from the lvl 50 HM FPs isn't that great anyway; you're better off spending planetary comms to get the gear from Makeb.

If you want to run a FP with a tank that wants to do all the content, the best approach would be to ask in general chat on the Fleet.

The problem is more that there are not enough people rolling tank classes; my lvl 55 Rep toon always finds a group immediately for both lvl 50 and 55 FPs

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Onyxus
07.21.2013 , 12:49 PM | #24
I know how you feel, Me and a friend queued together (me on my dps alt him on his healer) and we got battle of ilum and this tank skipped every single boss even ones I didn't think you could skip

We only did the last boss and the one just before the end.

So we queued again and got him AGAIN! was so annoyed we just kicked him and I logged on my tank

We asked him politely if he would at least do the bosses and his immediate reply was "you wanna find another tank? go for it"

I always do all the bosses related to achievements when tanking, and if people politely ask to do additional ones then sure why not

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Kaisernick
07.21.2013 , 09:12 PM | #25
doesn't lvl 50 HM FP drop black hole gear?

i mean last time i did it most bosses dropped it and i have found that it useful for the entire of makeb (got to lvl 55 with full black hole and rarely died)

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wainot-keel
07.21.2013 , 10:07 PM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by HigeeSnali View Post
I'm really sick of getting stuck with a group of L55s that skip everything, five times this week we've had a L55 tank in a group with lower levels that left when we asked to kill the other bosses or do the bonus because we need the XP or gear , really wish they would stop L55s from doing 50 flashpoints with under 55s. After a 20+ minute wait for a tank on Jedi Covenant I really don't want one to drop because he wants to just get it done fast and can't be bothered to explain to people how an EASY fight is done
If they make a specific branch for 50s or (50 - 54) to run these flashpoints, how long these queues will be ? That wouldn't be good.

If you bought the expansion, it really is a very short time you stay at 50. One flashpoint through group finder plus some dailies and you're already 51. With the expansion, these lvl 50 hms are just leveling content which drop leveling gear.

As for the xp reward, if there's a 55 there, you're already screwed on xp for kills, the gap between levels does that. With a 55 on the group, not much point kiling a gazillion mobs because there's little to gain. The most experience, by far, comes from the quests rewards (group finder quest, daily flashpoint, actual flashpoint)

Sucks when the the tank leaves like that when the flashpoint starts (can happen with Kaon or Lost Island, just because they are Kaon or Lost Island) but in reality, you're not in a worse situation that you were the minute before. A minute before you were waiting for a tank. Just like you are at the point where the tank left. Only difference is you have a higher priority to get a tank assigned. You don't need to stay in the instance, you can just exit area and go back to whatever it was you were doing while you were waiting and travel back in once another tank shows up.

Level 55s not being to do the 50 hms would be a bad thing for everybody. And let's be honest, the skipping bosses thing happened way before 2.0

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taxidermis
07.22.2013 , 08:23 AM | #27
It's simple. I have 55 dps, tank, and (part time) healer. When on tank or healer, in 50 hm or sm, if there is a less than 55 member, I ask if they need gear. In battle of ilum, if they need gear, just mention that neither the pig or the droids drop bh, so they will be skipped. Kill the Jedi, the guy that stuns u and calls waves of adds and the last boss. Skip all trash. Lowbies still get gear and good xp, rest of us are happy cause it's still a 10-20 min run max.
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oaceen
07.25.2013 , 04:56 AM | #28
i think now with the achievements and 55s queuing for 50 FPs, it's important to talk about it beforehand.


i did a battle of ilum yesterday on my 55 commando with two sub 55s. i asked them if they wanted to do the bosses, and we did. we skipped a lot of the trash and the bonus boss, but we did all the other bosses.

i'm sure if no one had said anything, people would have just skipped ahead like they normally do.
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Ottoattack
07.25.2013 , 12:02 PM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by tabross View Post
so yesterday i ran a couple of flashpoints and both times we skipped all but two of the bosses. is this a new trend ? and if so how does a new 50 or 55 player get geared?
Most people do FPs now for the weekly reward not for the gear. When I run with my guildies we typically skip bonus bosses.

If someone needs gear in the group I am more than happy to do the bonus bosses, but other than that they are typically skipped.