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a-madman
07.18.2013 , 02:56 PM | #1
Ok for as long as i can remember RESing hasnt been good but now its getting really annoying

but when everyone dies and one person leave instants and comes back in to revive the rest he cant see any of the dead people so we do /follow and then 99% of the time its put that person in a different location????

Any ideas and please dont say exit area and come back in
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07.18.2013 , 04:19 PM | #2 This is the last staff post in this thread.  
Hi there a-madman,

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I've seen some reports of this here and there, and we are very much looking forward to getting more information about it, because the details are what will allow us to make it happen internally and fix the issue!

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when everyone dies
Do you mean in a regular group or Operations group?

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and one person leave instants and comes back in to revive the rest
Does this happen in all instances? Heroics? Operations? Flashpoints? All modes?

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he cant see any of the dead people
Is it that they are just invisible, as though in a different instance?

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so we do /follow and then 99% of the time its put that person in a different location????
What do you mean by this? Who /follows who? Which person is put in a different location? Does this make the other party members visible again?

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a-madman
07.18.2013 , 04:28 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by AmberGreen View Post

Do you mean in a regular group or Operations group?
Have noticed it in both but more in operations and there are instants based

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Does this happen in all instances? Heroics? Operations? Flashpoints? All modes?
I dont do many heroics, but in OPS and FPS yes

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Is it that they are just invisible, as though in a different instance?
You cannot click them in the OPS/Group frames until the /follow you then the show up and become visible (most times in the wrong location and you cannot revive as it say "out of range"

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What do you mean by this? Who /follows who? Which person is put in a different location? Does this make the other party members visible again?
The Dead person does the /follow and is visible again and 99% of the time in a different location

Hope this helps
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Telanis
07.18.2013 , 04:41 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by AmberGreen View Post
Hi there a-madman,

As a friendly reminder, please make sure you have filed an in-game /bug about any issues you're posting about in the Bug Report Forum. For more information about how this works, please read "How to Submit A Bug Report In Game" .

I've seen some reports of this here and there, and we are very much looking forward to getting more information about it, because the details are what will allow us to make it happen internally and fix the issue!



Do you mean in a regular group or Operations group?



Does this happen in all instances? Heroics? Operations? Flashpoints? All modes?



Is it that they are just invisible, as though in a different instance?



What do you mean by this? Who /follows who? Which person is put in a different location? Does this make the other party members visible again?

We will be keeping an eye on this thread. Thanks for your report!
I can address these. I've only seen it in Ops myself, not sure if all modes but definite HM. The situation:

1. You and another person die
2. You exit the instance and return; they stay, dead
3. You cannot see their body
4. You cannot target them in the Ops frame, even if they tell you where they are and you move within range of where they ought to be.
5. They can target you
6. If they /follow you, then you can suddenly see their body and revive them

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Lowarro
07.18.2013 , 04:43 PM | #5
I've seen this several times too running ops. When wipes happen those who die far enough away from the boss (or run to safe location when wipe is inevitable and /stuck) stay in instance to wait for revive while the rest load in again (at fleet and re-enter instance...would be nice and might even take care of this bug if there was a respawn point inside the instance...). Often those waiting for revives are not visible or targetable to those re-entering the instance (seems to be at least 80% of the time) . The work-around of having the player waiting for the revive /follow the reviver to be targeted. (Once one is revived that one can usually see the other corpses, if any waiting.)
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07.18.2013 , 05:08 PM | #6
just to add info:

when they /follow you you can see them, but it is often not the same location as they see themselves on their screen. but if you can get within 10m of where they see their body and you rez them where you see them, then the rez will be successful.

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Selenial
07.18.2013 , 05:25 PM | #7
The confusing aspect of this bug is the dead people see the live people, but the live cannot see the dead.

If there are two dead people, and one alive (A, B and C being alive)
Person A follows C
Person C revives A
Person A can still see B, who is dead, and hasnt /followed anyone.
Person A revives B.


Wierdly for me, if follow works, they're hardly ever in a wrong place and easily revive-able.
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ArchangelLBC
07.18.2013 , 06:15 PM | #8
This has been happening for a long long time. I remember it happening back when TFB came out (we have a sentinel in our ops group who hates reloading fleet then reloading the instance so always just waits for people to run back and try and rez him).

Heck I remember this being a problem during EC around the same time.

Usually if someone like a stealth class combat stealths out they can see the dead but the people who left and come back cannot. (Verified when a shadow whose used their rez stealths out during a wipe so they can see the dead but obviously their rez is on cooldown). This makes me think it would be an easy solution to treat things like flashpoints and just rez people back in the instance if they release (return to med center) and just lock out releasing if your ops is in combat to prevent death zerging. Somehow I bet that would bug combat rez though.
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shadowflit
07.18.2013 , 06:26 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Telanis View Post
1. You and another person die
2. You exit the instance and return; they stay, dead
3. You cannot see their body
4. You cannot target them in the Ops frame, even if they tell you where they are and you move within range of where they ought to be.
5. They can target you
6. If they /follow you, then you can suddenly see their body and revive them
Seconding this as an accurate description of events.

Also, Selenial's A, B, C pattern is also a very good description.


A similar situation issue is that if a stealth class enters stealth while everyone else leaves the instance, when they zone back in the stealther will be completely invisible. In the sense that he does not show as selectable in the ops frame, and cannot be seen at all. Dropping stealth will bring things back to normal.
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07.18.2013 , 08:11 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by AmberGreen View Post
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Do you mean in a regular group or Operations group?
Does this happen in all instances? Heroics? Operations? Flashpoints? All modes?
Is it that they are just invisible, as though in a different instance?
What do you mean by this? Who /follows who? Which person is put in a different location? Does this make the other party members visible again?
We will be keeping an eye on this thread. Thanks for your report!
I have only seen this in Operations.

Yes, they are completely invisible. The dead person will be in chat saying "You're standing right next to me", but we won't be able to see them.

The dead person /follows the person trying to revive them, which allows the person to revive them. I'm not sure they actually appear again, it's just you can use your revive ability. I've found it's the revived person who changes location. It only helps the person you revived - you have to repeat the process with any other dead people.