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What's with all the ganking??

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What's with all the ganking??

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Sarlegant
07.16.2013 , 07:52 AM | #71
Server transfers is prolly the final nail in pvp server coffins... gank all you like, while there are still lowbies on your server.

Leveling up on a pvp server can be fun, but ultimately it's a hassle. Players can xfer off the pvp servers now when that hassle exceeds the fun.

And there is no reason to xfer to a pvp server. Pve server players can always tag themselves, and/or que for warzones.

Obviously I don't mean everyone, and not all at once... but watch the trends, 6 months after the xfers started, I'm thinking finding pvp server populations listed as Heavy will become rare, starting in September when the schools reopen.

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crunchybacon
07.16.2013 , 08:29 AM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarlegant View Post
Server transfers is prolly the final nail in pvp server coffins... gank all you like, while there are still lowbies on your server.

Leveling up on a pvp server can be fun, but ultimately it's a hassle. Players can xfer off the pvp servers now when that hassle exceeds the fun.

And there is no reason to xfer to a pvp server. Pve server players can always tag themselves, and/or que for warzones.

Obviously I don't mean everyone, and not all at once... but watch the trends, 6 months after the xfers started, I'm thinking finding pvp server populations listed as Heavy will become rare, starting in September when the schools reopen.
IDK, WoW opened server transfers years ago and my server remained balanced and high pop.

People who like PvP will stay, carebears who shoulda rolled PvE in the first place will leave.

Most of these posts complaining about ganking have one thing in common. The person likes to PvP but on their terms. Consensual PvP = PvE server.

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uncle_monty
07.16.2013 , 08:33 AM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by SithKoriandr View Post
So, when one plays chess against a superior opponent, it's not playing? When one plays poker against a superior player, it's not playing?

I don't think you know exactly what playing is.

You're playing a level 1 (just picked a number ), they're playing a level 55. They of course have the advantage. You're both still playing, you just don't like your odds.

What if you were level 55, they were level 50, and they not only killed you repeatedly, but camped your corpse? Would the same gripe still be occurring, even though it's the exact same complaint. Only this time, the one complaining should have the advantage.
Oh dear, congratulations on posting the worst analogy I've read for some time. Please allow me to retort::--

In chess, despite variences in skill levels, I can for example take your knight with my pawn. The chances of my beating a superior player are small granted, however, each of our pieces within the game are on a level playing field. My knight is equal to your knight. A level 30 player in SWTOR cannot even hit a 55. The same applies to Poker (another equally bad analogy) if I am dealt a royal flush then I will win, no question.

Players attacking players that are more than four levels below their character's level should be turned into astromech droids, and their companions into orokeet birds, they contribute nothing to the game.
"You now understand why an exotic weapon or unfamiliar style will be more difficult to defend against, but until you become an expert in a particular style, in the heat of combat your mind will still struggle to grasp it's limitations."
Dark Lord Kas'im - Darth Bane 1 Path of Destruction

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BounceDK
07.16.2013 , 09:18 AM | #74
I got jumped & camped by 3 imp guys. I now do the same to every imp I see, hoping they'll quit the game.

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Bojangle
07.16.2013 , 09:30 AM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by znihilist View Post
Wouldn't be easier just to put it in the codes that if there is a difference of let's say X levels between the two players they don't see each other as PvP flagged ?
That defeats the purpose of a pvp server. Red = Dead motto on pvp servers. If you don't like forced pvp then join the servers. You can't have it all.

Seriously, what is the mmo world becoming? My Lord. People are so needy and lazy now. They want everything easier and handed to them. They don't want pvp servers to allow higher levels to gank them so they want the whole pvp server worlds to now have level caps of who you can/can't attack.

Why even play mmo's then?
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ObiJuanShenobi
07.16.2013 , 09:38 AM | #76
Last week, I stumbled across a level 30 on Tattoine and he foolishly fired a shot at me (I'm level 55, completely PVP geared and augmented). I emote /lol'd and squashed him in half a second. Then I popped stealth. He rezzed and I squashed him again. I popped my Party Jawa and danced on his corpse and /lol'd. After a minute of this, I ran away..popped stealth...and went back. He rezzed and I repeated the process. After 5 minutes of this, I left the area to continue on. As I was on my way, I saw him again (apparently, he rezzed at Med center and was heading back to doing whatever he was doing). He saw me and tried to hide behind a wall. I found him, killed him, /lol'd and went on my merry little way.

That night, on a toon of the opposite faction, I joined a guild. That guy I had a gank party with was there and recognized my legacy name. Talk about awkward.
The Lightstrider Legacy

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branmakmuffin
07.16.2013 , 09:47 AM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by ObiJuanShenobi View Post
Last week, I stumbled across a level 30 on Tattoine and he foolishly fired a shot at me (I'm level 55, completely PVP geared and augmented). I emote /lol'd and squashed him in half a second. Then I popped stealth. He rezzed and I squashed him again. I popped my Party Jawa and danced on his corpse and /lol'd. After a minute of this, I ran away..popped stealth...and went back. He rezzed and I repeated the process. After 5 minutes of this, I left the area to continue on. As I was on my way, I saw him again (apparently, he rezzed at Med center and was heading back to doing whatever he was doing). He saw me and tried to hide behind a wall. I found him, killed him, /lol'd and went on my merry little way.
That you would bother to do all that tells us all we need to know about your maturity level. One time because he was dopey enough to take a shot at you? OK, I get that.

If I had ever forgotten why I don't PvP, your post would have been a solid reminder.

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Braxxiss
07.16.2013 , 09:47 AM | #78
I refuse to play on PvP servers anymore. I keep trying it in every new MMO I try, and end up giving up...usually about half way to max level. That is when the ganking and camping gets way out of hand. I just don't understand the fun of killing level 20-30 at level 50-55...just seems so boring...especially camping. I sat there with a book watching my corpse get danced on by a level 50 while reading, waiting for him to leave so I could play....3 hours of reading my book, the guy never left...I figured he went afk so tried raising a few times only to immediately die as soon as my temporary invis wore off. That was the last that character got played...he was logged off dead and as far as I know that level 50 is still standing there waiting for me to come back.
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branmakmuffin
07.16.2013 , 09:55 AM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by Braxxiss View Post
I refuse to play on PvP servers anymore. I keep trying it in every new MMO I try, and end up giving up...usually about half way to max level. That is when the ganking and camping gets way out of hand. I just don't understand the fun of killing level 20-30 at level 50-55...just seems so boring...especially camping. I sat there with a book watching my corpse get danced on by a level 50 while reading, waiting for him to leave so I could play....3 hours of reading my book, the guy never left...I figured he went afk so tried raising a few times only to immediately die as soon as my temporary invis wore off. That was the last that character got played...he was logged off dead and as far as I know that level 50 is still standing there waiting for me to come back.
Seriously and literally 3 hours?

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Braxxiss
07.16.2013 , 10:00 AM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
Seriously and literally 3 hours?
Yes, seriously, and yes, literally 3 hours...actual time was ganking starting at 10:37 am and I logged off with him still camping me at 1:43 pm. So literally a little over 3 hours. I wrote it down as a reminder to Never, Ever roll on a PvP server on any game, ever again. Right next to my note warning me about going back to FFXI...what a waste of time that game was...LFG for hours to log off without doing a single thing.
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