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lvl 55 Flashpoints are too hard, drop **** loot and are mostly overrun by pugs...

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lvl 55 Flashpoints are too hard, drop **** loot and are mostly overrun by pugs...

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Eugee
07.15.2013 , 02:50 PM | #61
When I hit 55 on each of my characters (eight, one of each AC) I crafted them all a set of blue 66 gear (148 rating). My main character on each side (guardian & marauder) got purple 66 gear (156). So you can actually craft (or have crafted) purple 66 gear--the primary drops from 55 HM FPs. The last boss and bonus boss are the only reason I do them (well, elite comms).

This morning I did Athiss. After dying to the bonus boss enraging twice, I get back to the room and get ready to try again. One of the damage says, "why are we trying again? I keep getting knocked back out of range to heal you"

Again, one of the damage. Who refused to stand with his back to the statue, both to make AE healing easier on the healer, and to avoid the knockback. But it doesn't matter, because he was casting heals. I told him to just bring the deeps instead, and we killed the boss.

Last night, running Hammer Station, we were on the bonus boss there and I sent a tell to the gunslinger, regarding the commando damage in the group: "Dude, I've noticed your ability priority is on point, so I'm going to beg you to do the most damage you've ever done for 3 minutes--because that has to be the worst commando I've ever seen."

He replied that he was just thinking the same thing. This guy was just pushing random buttons, from the looks of it. Explosive Round... silence... Charged Bolt... wasted GCD... Plasma Grenade... long pause... Grav Roudn... ***? Then I noticed... he was waiting for his ammo to get to full before pushing a button--and never using filler attacks. It was really mortifying and his damage was HORRIBLE. But he was in 148 gear.

I really don't find the FPs to be the problem these days. :P

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Flooz
07.16.2013 , 06:28 AM | #62
I haven't had too many issues with groups just sucking. There was a group that didn't have enough dps to down the bonus boss in mandalorian raiders.

I also was tanking a group on final boss of Cademimu and both dps died. The healer and I ended up doing the whole fight. It was so much fun too! I guess that boss doesnt enrage. Im not sure how good jugg tank dps is and I had to keep doing shackles on healer. But that was the most fun Ive had in this game.

I do kinda agree about the loot. Really no reason for half of the bosses in each FP to drop useless loot. 2 comms per boss is soo measly as well. If you get a loot ninja in this game, it can be soo heartbreaking.

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ELRunninW
07.16.2013 , 10:39 AM | #63
Can I add my 'no' the list?

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AlrikFassbauer
07.18.2013 , 09:57 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by xXsgtstinkerXx View Post
Lol how are these hard at all? They should actually raise the difficulty or come out with harder stuff. On 2.0 launch my friend and I were in dread guard and 2 manned all the fps.. I've even soloed Hammer Station.
How much time do these runs consume time, actually ? I'm just curious, because I'd like to do it as well, one day. Although I'm quite sure that I won't manage to do it.
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Evilczech
07.20.2013 , 03:09 PM | #65
There is a vote to kick option in all group finder parties. I use it quite often. When I see they are not up to snuff. I kick them out. When they whisper me back why I kicked them I explain they need to run more 50HM's and get out of their blue mod gear from Corellia.
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izmirtheastarach
07.21.2013 , 07:59 PM | #66
I am playing more 55 FPs on my 61 geared Juggernaut then I ever have. The only time they are actually fun for me is when I am undergeared. Healing or Tanking them in 69 gear or better is laughably easy. So much so that it becomes utterly boring. The only times I have really wiped in an FP is when you have an absolutely awful Tank. So I queue a lot more on Tanks then on anything else.

As an addendum to this whole discussion, I was just in a HM Athiss where the Tank & Healer were insisting on some convoluted strategy for the first boss where you drag him halfway across the map, because it made the fight "easier". The idea that any of these fights are difficult enough to some people to require strategy boggles my mind.

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kirorx
07.22.2013 , 11:07 AM | #67
This is just wrong from my perspective

I only PUG and we blow through the content most of the time

There are level 69 gear drops those are great

The blue drops are better than the 61 gear and can be sold for a good amount if credits

Not to mention the weekly gets you ultimate comms

So, I disagree 100% and I am on ebon hawk which is an RP server,
maybe you could come here in case it's your server or play times.
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AshlaBoga
07.22.2013 , 11:35 AM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Eugee View Post
He replied that he was just thinking the same thing. This guy was just pushing random buttons, from the looks of it. Explosive Round... silence... Charged Bolt... wasted GCD... Plasma Grenade... long pause... Grav Roudn... ***? Then I noticed... he was waiting for his ammo to get to full before pushing a button--and never using filler attacks. It was really mortifying and his damage was HORRIBLE. But he was in 148 gear.
That is one heck of a bad commando.
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-DSR-
07.25.2013 , 08:29 AM | #69
Please don't nerf the 55s!

There are finally a few flaspoints with some challenge. And the gear drops are good enough. I can't agree with your argument that pre 2.0 when you got gear with setbonuses was so much better, back then you got one Columni token per flashpoint, now you get 2 69 pieces every flashpoinz, thats more gear in my opinion, and if you already got arkanian gear, what would be the point of dgoing sm ops.
Pre 2.0, there was only Lost Island where you needed some gear and skill to complete it, so not every f2p noob who never did a hm flashpoint with 10k health could do it, unfortunately the 55s now aren't even close to that difficulty.

Fortunately you can't now ding 55, and start clearing the 55s in green and blue gear, it is a gear game, so you have to get some decent gear with stuff from lvl 50 fps, lvl 50 ops and dailys.

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Ottoattack
07.25.2013 , 11:52 AM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Flooz View Post
I haven't had too many issues with groups just sucking. There was a group that didn't have enough dps to down the bonus boss in mandalorian raiders.

This used to happen a lot on most bonus bosses early in April. If you have both dps below full 150 gear, you may face some problems delivering on the dps part. Considering how is easy it is to get basic coms and elite comms, I rarely ever see enrage in FPs anymore.

I also was tanking a group on final boss of Cademimu and both dps died. The healer and I ended up doing the whole fight. It was so much fun too! I guess that boss doesnt enrage. Im not sure how good jugg tank dps is and I had to keep doing shackles on healer. But that was the most fun Ive had in this game.

I had similar experience in the good old days of when the shackles were unbreakable. Both dps died by the shackles early in the boss fight. I told the tank not to worry about me (I am heal sorc with root remove on force speed), and the boss does not enrage and does not deal much damage so I was dpsing in between barrier and Hot cool downs. Downed the boss with no problem.

I do kinda agree about the loot. Really no reason for half of the bosses in each FP to drop useless loot. 2 comms per boss is soo measly as well. If you get a loot ninja in this game, it can be soo heartbreaking.
FPs give 19 elite comps per FP per day with bonus boss. Mostly everyone do them now because they are trying to get the ultimate comms from the weekly though.