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What's with all the ganking??

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What's with all the ganking??

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swtonewbie
07.14.2013 , 02:46 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by mitrikzoltan View Post
This bleeds from so many wounds it scares me.

1, In the real world do you beat up 10 year old kids day after day, or just continually? I sure hope not.
2, If you have say a gun, and decide to shoot someone "out in the jungle" who has no gun, is it his/her fault for not being prepared?

And to step away from your very-very weird real world analogy and step back into SWTOR, how do you propose a Level 30 should prepare for a Level 55's 2 second kill out of nowhere?
1) if you are 15 years old, and beating up a 10 year old day after day...the logical thing for the 10 year old to do is to get an adult or two involved or maybe even get a group of his friends to beat the crap out of that 15 year old

2) if you willingly go out into a wild jungle without a gun, that kinda makes you an idiot

But anyways, PVP servers are meant to be player enforced...in theory anyways. How do you do that? just like in my answer above, you get a group of guildies or friends to come and help out if you are getting ganked repeatedly or you ask in general chat on the planet you are on. Does this always work? unfortunately no. For most games, there is little to no reward or incentive to participate in WPVP. Why would a group of say 10-15 level 55s go to random planets and patrol to keep it safe for lowbies? So unless you have guildies or friends in game that you are close with you are SOL. Sometimes you might get lucky and a random 55 on the planet will be bored and come out to help you.
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Andryah
07.14.2013 , 03:32 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by AshlaBoga View Post
Andryah, isn't Sociopath a bit strong?
I did not state that all gankers were sociopaths.

Only that PvP servers attract sociopaths and that they tend to like to like to gank with impunity. They also like all manner of other player grief inducing pass times as well. This does have a side benefit for guilds that like to be predatory towards predators though. In my guild.. we have in fact done that.. go hunting for gankers and get medieval on their arses. Vigilante justice works well on PvP servers from my experience.
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znihilist
07.14.2013 , 06:01 PM | #23
Wouldn't be easier just to put it in the codes that if there is a difference of let's say X levels between the two players they don't see each other as PvP flagged ?

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agamemnon-
07.14.2013 , 09:25 PM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by MSchuyler View Post
In the real world!
Stoped reading right there. Real World means didly in a sci-fi/fantasy MMO.

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Going
07.14.2013 , 09:32 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by mitrikzoltan View Post
Man these guys must have small d***s...
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Lunafox
07.14.2013 , 10:03 PM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
In other words... it's bad PvP. Bad Player versus Player.

But let's not pretend it's not player vs player.

You are like the HR person who notifies someone that they've been "downsized" when what they really mean is "fired".
How can it be considered 'playing' if the person getting ganked, doesn't even have a chance? Playing involves an action and a response. You move this checker, I move that checker...with ganking, you just eliminated the other guy's checkers, and cut off his side of the board. You can't even respond. That's not playing lol.


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Lunafox
07.14.2013 , 10:07 PM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by annabethchase View Post
I don't disagree, that's why i'll always roll PvE. I'll do my pvp in fair contests in warzones and enjoy my time much more than sitting dead with no options.
100% agree there. I played on Freedom Nadd for about six months. I didn't enjoy it, so I rerolled to a PVE server. Haven't looked back since. I can do my pve in peace, and if I wanna pvp, I can do warzones or go to an area.
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SithKoriandr
07.14.2013 , 10:18 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by mitrikzoltan View Post
I returned to TOR about 2 weeks ago, resubbed, because I really like the direction TOR is going. BTW, kudos Bioware!

I play on Tomb of Freedon Nadd. And there is a really serious issue (in my opinion). Ganking. LVL 55's in PVP gear making it impossible to use the game as it was intended from LVL 30+. But it's not getting any better at 55 either. Guess what chance you have against 2, but even just one fully PVP geared dude, in your average or basic gear?
Actually, I always found that to be the way a PvP Server was intended. You knew the risks of rolling on a PvP Server before you did. EVERYONE knows the risks of logging onto a PvP Server before they do.
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SithKoriandr
07.14.2013 , 10:22 PM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Lunafox View Post
How can it be considered 'playing' if the person getting ganked, doesn't even have a chance? Playing involves an action and a response. You move this checker, I move that checker...with ganking, you just eliminated the other guy's checkers, and cut off his side of the board. You can't even respond. That's not playing lol.


And don't presume to know me. If you knew me, and knew me in real life, you'd know, I prefer to call a spade, a spade. I'm very direct. Almost to the extreme sometimes.
So, when one plays chess against a superior opponent, it's not playing? When one plays poker against a superior player, it's not playing?

I don't think you know exactly what playing is.

You're playing a level 1 (just picked a number ), they're playing a level 55. They of course have the advantage. You're both still playing, you just don't like your odds.

What if you were level 55, they were level 50, and they not only killed you repeatedly, but camped your corpse? Would the same gripe still be occurring, even though it's the exact same complaint. Only this time, the one complaining should have the advantage.
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RodneyMcNeely
07.14.2013 , 11:03 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by AshlaBoga View Post
Andryah, isn't Sociopath a bit strong?
Not at all.

I listened to a guy who does research in the field of psycopathy (don't remember his name) give a TED talk on the subject. His research suggested that fully 20% of the human population fits the textbook definition of a psychopath (sociopath is only used as a colloquial term). Obviously most psychopaths don't victimize other people, much less become criminals. However, they are found in disproportionate numbers among people in intense, high-stress occupations (law enforcement, the military, medicine, high finance, etc.), usually in positions of authority.

I can totally see a PvP server in a video game attracting more than its share.