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07.11.2013 , 01:13 PM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by Shaddoe View Post
As for this specific episode, I did not agree with Laura and Gary regarding the extra 500 CC. I think it was fine; however, I can see their point. If a person gives you a gift, it shows that he cares more if that gift was something unique to you instead of a gift certificate, for example. BioWare granting subscribers 500 CCs is similar to giving a gift certificate. For me, I don't mind a gift certificate.
Well, to be fair, they are hard pressed to come up with a gift that is "unique to you" for around 500.000 people... Its like a large corporation giving a christmas bonus to their employees. Giving them money and not a sweater with the company logo on it would be better recieved in general.
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07.11.2013 , 01:14 PM | #112
Quote: Originally Posted by jubakumbi View Post
I think I said in some cases a non subscriber pays more. I would bet there are a number that pay more than the $15/month a subscriber pays. Collectively, It's an unknown to us if the non subscribers as a whole pay more than the subscribers, but would be an interesting data point.

As for negative vs. positive feedback, both have pros and cons. As long as the feedback is productive, it has merit.

IMO, the 'feedback' I have seen form the OP in my short time on these forums has been less than productive. In referring to the fragile egos you describe with your post, I think the OP would be on that list.
Oh, I'm sure the number of F2P players spending more than $15 on the market is a number also...but keep in mind that even 0 is a number.

And I agree - feedback needs to be constructive. I don't like "OMG BIOFAIL" posts either, but I try to keep in mind that when a player does start a thread like that, it's generally because something got to them. People seldom rant just to rant (seldom, not never). Getting to the heart of their frustration is what I enjoy doing because generally, they have a valid point to be made...not gracefully, but they still may have a point.

As for the OP, he's new to the forums (I think...?) and although quite often critical, he does have some decent points. You can disagree with the style, but the point remains.
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07.11.2013 , 01:17 PM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
Well, to be fair, they are hard pressed to come up with a gift that is "unique to you" for around 500.000 people... Its like a large corporation giving a christmas bonus to their employees. Giving them money and not a sweater with the company logo on it would be better recieved in general.
I'd agree with this. It was lazy, it was an easy route, but...I honestly can't come up with a better idea given the state of the game.
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07.11.2013 , 01:18 PM | #114
Quote: Originally Posted by Drake_Hound View Post
Eh "ashamed to say" but I agree with her on this topic only !

Bioware you lazy cheapskate ! I beter not find out that you guys put our gift into the next CM packet !!!!

( that will teach them lol who am I kidding )

but I do agree it was extreme cheap gift , sorry miss comedy has a point .
Some people like to recieve money for there birthday , but I rather have a present or nothing at all .

doesn't mean the idea was bad "of the gift" , just the execution was terrible .
But Heck we need more laughters , come aliyena more rants !
Lets do a incite the pitchfork of jersey people speech
Ok, let me put this to you in another way... would you still like that present instead of money for your birthday if everyone else in your extended family got the exact same present on their birthday?
Would it still feel "unique" and "thoughtful" if everyone got the same clock or sweater on their birthday?
Because thats the choice bioware had. Either hand out the same present to 500k subscribers and hope that everyone likes the present or give them money to buy whatever they want instead.
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07.11.2013 , 01:22 PM | #115
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
People seldom rant just to rant (seldom, not never).
LOL. More often than not, ranters are in fact ranting just to rant., with nothing coherent to say.

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07.11.2013 , 01:23 PM | #116
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
I'd agree with this. It was lazy, it was an easy route, but...I honestly can't come up with a better idea given the state of the game.
Its not lazy and its not really about the state of the game.
Its about the sheer impossibility of giving a "unique" and "thoughtful" present to each and every one of the 500.000 or so subscribers in the game.
You simply cannot please everyone with one gift.
They could have given us all 5 gifts to choose from... but even then there would be people complaining... either that they didnt like any of the gifts, or that they liked all of them and dont want to have to choose.
Seriously, there is no way to solve it so that everyone is happy.

Or can you suggest a way?
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07.11.2013 , 01:24 PM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
LOL. More often than not, ranters are in fact ranting just to rant., with nothing coherent to say.
We can disagree on that. I take the time to find out what their real complaint is, you brush it aside as a smile rant. Neither of us is wrong, we just differ in how we handle things.
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07.11.2013 , 01:25 PM | #118
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
Its not lazy and its not really about the state of the game.
Its about the sheer impossibility of giving a "unique" and "thoughtful" present to each and every one of the 500.000 or so subscribers in the game.
You simply cannot please everyone with one gift.
They could have given us all 5 gifts to choose from... but even then there would be people complaining... either that they didnt like any of the gifts, or that they liked all of them and dont want to have to choose.
Seriously, there is no way to solve it so that everyone is happy.

Or can you suggest a way?
As I stated in the reply you quoted, I honestly can't think of anything better. Although I did like your idea about 5 items to select from...that could have worked imo.
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07.11.2013 , 01:29 PM | #119
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
As I stated in the reply you quoted, I honestly can't think of anything better. Although I did like your idea about 5 items to select from...that could have worked imo.
Trust me... Ayelinna would be in here whining about it anyway... either because she didnt like the offered items or because it was unfair that we had to pick only one or because she would have been better off with 500CC so she could pick her own present :P
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07.11.2013 , 01:30 PM | #120
Seriously though folks. Gamebreaker likes TOR in the same fashion that the Sith Emperor likes Jedi.
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