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Ocho-Quatro
07.10.2013 , 02:42 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Ottoattack View Post
...We usually run EV for the weekly classic Ops. We could 4 man it if we want, but it would take us 90 mins plus to finish something that could be done in 40-45 mins...
My goal is to get it down to 30 minutes for a Hard Mode EV run... The closest I have gotten, was with a pug about 2 weeks ago... I started the timer when we engaged the turrets, and stopped it when Soa died... 31m 12s... If we hadn't had someone go afk for a few minutes before we did the Council, we would have had it. The key is, to run with 2 healers, 5 dps, and 1 tank.... the most time consuming part of EV, is the trash on the circle in between Annihilator and Gharj... if your tank is decently geared in 69/72s, he can just never stop moving going around the circle, and just keep picking up all the adds while the dps clean them up. The tank can make it to the cave to round up the dogs, while the rest of the group is still in the tunnel where all the adds spawn when you walk in... if you do it right.

Back on topic - to the OP, I really think you and your duo-buddy should really consider the option of teaming with other people at this point in the game. You're trying to make something happen, that isn't really going to happen.

My recommendation would be, to scrap the idea of trying to 2-man HM 55 FPs, and either try your hand at 4-man FPs, or some 8man Operations. If it's not your cup of tea, your best bet, if you want to continue strictly duo'ing, is to re-roll and play a new class to see another story.
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Spiritrider
07.11.2013 , 08:45 AM | #22
Honestly, I am just concerned about not being very good, and screwing up the rest of the group
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Ocho-Quatro
07.11.2013 , 09:05 AM | #23
What server are you on? I am on Jedi Covenant. On the off-chance that you are also (are you pubside or impside?) I will gladly team with you and your duo-partner. I PuG a LOT. I play with people of many varying levels of skill and knowledge, and unless they are simply incapable of following simple directions, things are usually just fine. I have no problem explaining mechanics of fights to people who have never experienced them before. And I am NOT the only person who feels this way. I know a lot of players that have no problem helping other players when it's their first time.

Find me a player who says he has NEVER made a mistake that wiped a raid, and I guarantee he's a liar

My experience in-game with "first-time" operations players, has been, as long as you tell the group upfront, that it's your first time, unless it's 2am in the morning and the rest of the team just wants to get it done fast and go to bed, or you showed up for a Hard Mode TfB/S&V having never done Story Mode... then the group is usually willing to help you along. Everyone was new to all the content at least once.

So if you aren't on my server to take me up on my offer.... The next time you are on Fleet, and you see someone looking for members for Hard Mode Eternity Vault (you are way overgeared if you are in 66s) or for Story Mode Terror From Beyond or Scum and Villainy (if you are in 66s, you should be fine...) answer the call. But make sure to let the team know that it it's your first time!

(you can always head over to Dulfy.net and look up her operations boss guides too... give you an idea of what to expect.)

Keep the following in mind (DOs/DON'Ts)

DO tell the group it's your first time.

DON'T stand in any big circle on the ground

DON'T touch a glowing object if you don't know what it does.

DON'T run ahead of the tank and accidentally pull mobs.

DON'T use any sort of AoE when trash mobs are CC'd

DO have fun.

Quote: Originally Posted by Spiritrider View Post
Honestly, I am just concerned about not being very good, and screwing up the rest of the group
My wife also plays SWTOR. She is the epitome of a CASUAL player. (I was trying to help her one day with her Marauder's rotation, she is level 49... and she says to me "I will just click it when it lights up. That's what I always do.") I love that woman to pieces, and she LOVES the storyline content in SWTOR, but she is not by any stretch at all, an end-gamer or raider. She plays to have FUN. She tends to be mildy (to majorly) intoxicated while she plays. And, she has completed, with me, on her 55 dps Sage - Story/Hard/Nightmare Eternity Vault & Karagga's Palace.... Story Mode Explosive Conflict (at level 50 and 55) and Story Mode Terror From Beyond & Scum and Villainy (both at 55). She is smart, and can follow the directions given to her while we play, but she isn't ever going to lead an operation on her own, or top a dps chart. She contributes to the group, we beat enrage timers, and she enjoys it for the experience she's having, not the progression factor.

So don't feel like you are going to ruin a team. The simple fact that you feel that way, means you probably care enough to follow the directions moreso than a lot of "winners" I have pug'd with that HAVE wiped raids. (usually because they won't speak up to say it's their first time)
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Spiritrider
07.11.2013 , 09:22 AM | #24
I really appreciate that, and am sorry I am not on your server. We'll give it a try, let them know up front we're new and see how it goes.... what's the worse that can happen... right? (but, the big shiny circles are pretty. )

Thank you.
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mikebevo
07.11.2013 , 09:58 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Spiritrider View Post
Honestly, I am just concerned about not being very good, and screwing up the rest of the group
With that attitude, I would heal or dps any group you are in.

I had much the same attitude when I first started doing 50 HMFP over a year ago on my sawbones. What I discovered was I was just as good as other players and when I did screw up (everyone screws up from time to time), it was no big deal. Now I run with the big boys in a regular group progressing through operations. I still screw up from time to time, just apologize and try to learn from your mistake. Don't get me wrong, I hate when my toon dies and I still consider every wipe my fault, but it really is no big deal.