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shadow/sin tank what can I cheese?

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shadow/sin tank what can I cheese?

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mastirkal
07.09.2013 , 10:49 AM | #11
TfB

WTH- Cheese adds for second and fourth pull on NiM

DG- Ignore Lightning field damage, Use it before kelara Leech for 0 damage and a few extra seconds to get rid of all of your HoTs.

O-IX During second phase, you can put up force shroud to take zero damage on color deletion [Don't know if they fixed]

Keph Not much to cheese, and honestly not much need to cheese.

TfB first phase you can ignore the adds that come from the sea by force shrouding. You can also force shroud the adds that are "birthed" and clear a path for your group by taking the exploding damage.

S&V

Dash- Not much to cheese.

Titan 6- Can't cheese grenades in NiM, they changed it to weapon damage instead of elemental.

Trasher- Not much to cheese.

City- Use deflection on terminate, risky though nonetheless.

Shadow- not much to cheese

Warlords- You can cheese sunders endline move if you have two sin tanks, otherwise it's not a good idea to try.

Sty- Not much [useful] cheeses. You can use force shroud through his wall of hate, but that doesn't do you any good.

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throwdownj
07.09.2013 , 08:12 PM | #12
thanks so much everyone for the info

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Artemis_Targon
07.18.2013 , 09:26 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by THoK-Zeus View Post
I think he means the use of Force Cloak on The Writing Horror fight to "cheese the adds away" .
Hi everyone!

Can somebody explain me, when shadow tank should use Force Cloak to "cheese" the adds on TWH? I've heard about this possibility, but never managed to do myself.

Thanks in advance.

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DarthSpekulatius
07.18.2013 , 09:28 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Artemis_Targon View Post
Hi everyone!

Can somebody explain me, when shadow tank should use Resilience to "cheese" the adds on TWH? I've heard about this possibility, but never managed to do myself.

Thanks in advance.
not Resilience the combat stealth just stealth the second the male appears

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Artemis_Targon
07.18.2013 , 09:31 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthSpekulatius View Post
not Resilience the combat stealth just stealth the second the male appears
Ahhh... Force Cloak. Thank you, because I was starting to get confused. So I just use it before I taunt the Jealous Male?

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AAAAzrael
07.18.2013 , 09:39 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Artemis_Targon View Post
Ahhh... Force Cloak. Thank you, because I was starting to get confused. So I just use it before I taunt the Jealous Male?
Exactly. During tank swap you stealth out. Latest you can do it if you forget is when you hear sounds of adds spawning.

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Kitru
07.18.2013 , 10:15 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Artemis_Targon View Post
So I just use it before I taunt the Jealous Male?
You have to Force Cloak and wait out the Incubation debuff. If you're out of combat when the Incubation debuff fades, you don't get any adds spawned. If you *are* in combat, you get 1 add for every Incubation stack that you had (this also happens when the Jealous Male hits you; its attacks remove the Incubation stacks). As such, if you Force Cloak and then immediately taunt the Male, you'll not have cheesed anything because you'll be right back in combat. What you have to do is get an mDPS tank the Male using one or more CDs for the first 5-10 seconds while you're waiting out the debuff.

Also, make sure that you move a bit away from the Male and the Writhing Horror before you cloak. If you take *any* damage, you get brought right back into combat so you want to make sure you're well away from any sources.

Something to remember is that this only works on HM and NiM. On SM, as soon as the Male spawns, the Incubation stacks get removed and spawn the adds.
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KeyboardNinja
07.18.2013 , 10:16 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Artemis_Targon View Post
Hi everyone!

Can somebody explain me, when shadow tank should use Force Cloak to "cheese" the adds on TWH? I've heard about this possibility, but never managed to do myself.

Thanks in advance.
Stealth out when your cotank takes the main boss off of you but just *before* you take the Jealous Male. You can pop right back into combat, grab the male and proceed as usual. You will hear the sound of the adds hatching, but nothing will happen.
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KeyboardNinja
07.18.2013 , 10:19 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
You have to Force Cloak and wait out the Incubation debuff. If you're out of combat when the Incubation debuff fades, you don't get any adds spawned. If you *are* in combat, you get 1 add for every Incubation stack that you had (this also happens when the Jealous Male hits you; its attacks remove the Incubation stacks). As such, if you Force Cloak and then immediately taunt the Male, you'll not have cheesed anything because you'll be right back in combat. What you have to do is get an mDPS tank the Male using one or more CDs for the first 5-10 seconds while you're waiting out the debuff.
Actually, this isn't true anymore. All you have to do is drop combat (verified last night). Cotank taunts WH, I stealth and sprint out of 10m range of the Male, then turn around and Pull + Taunt. I'm back in combat less than 2 seconds after stealthing and I still have the Incubation debuff. Once the male hits me, the "add hatching" sound will be heard, but no adds will appear. I do have a video of this from a very tired melee DPS perspective, but the camera angle is really bad and you can't actually see anything. I also have a low-res video from my perspective, but it hasn't been uploaded.
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Kitru
07.18.2013 , 11:05 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by KeyboardNinja View Post
Actually, this isn't true anymore.
I've been pulled back into combat early by AoE damage (cotank was out of melee when I swapped over and cloaked), and the adds still popped up afterwards. I *do* know that I've *never* had the adds spawn while I've been out of combat so /shrug. The Male doesn't really hit hard enough to require a tank and an mDPS with a tank CD can pretty well take care of it for a little while in my experience so I'd rather be safe than sorry.
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