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Bolster PVP gear in ops


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Ansalem
07.06.2013 , 10:05 PM | #21
pvpers are not getting screwed at all. Pvpers always claim skill > gear yet the second bolster appeared the whining and crying began. If they truly are as good as they claim and more skilled than pvers like they claim then they should have zero trouble killing a pver using bolster to pvp.
As for pvp gear being bolstered in ops it is not necessary as partisan pvp gear is easy obtained for a low amount of warzone comms and has better stats than what pvers had to enter the original operations. Partisan is better than DG/hazmat gear therefore a pvper should easily be able to do SM tfb and SV for arkanian rank 69 gear upgrades. There is simply no need for bolster in a pve setting.

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TrillOG-
07.06.2013 , 10:06 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Kovaos View Post
You heard of ranked warzones? You will use your brain more in one ranked match than a weeks worth of fps and ops.

Gear should always matter no matter what you do.
What does how much you use your brain have to do with bolster and gear? This goes back to you wouldn't want a person in full pve gear on your team in ranked against a team in full conq would you? But in a normal warzone itdoesn't matter. Same goes for story mode ops and hm fp
The post above me says the same thing.

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schranz
07.07.2013 , 01:27 AM | #23
try getting into pve content in pvp gear without being flamed/kicked
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Ansalem
07.07.2013 , 01:40 AM | #24
pretty easy especially if its SM content.

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Anthraxal
07.07.2013 , 01:48 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by schranz View Post
I actually posted this to see how the response would be if the character progression through gear would be eliminated from your favorite part of the game. As you can see the mere thoght of it starts a flame war. Thank you for your responses i will use this to illustrate the problem in the PVP forum.
I'm sure it will have way more impact than the other 36 threads on the same topic *rolleyes*

Quote: Originally Posted by So-low View Post
I suppose that righteous PVE'er had it right when he said that PVP is a minigame and 0.5% of the content, because that is certainly what it feels like.
Defining oneself as PvPer or PvEr is being hemiplegic. I would rather stay whole, thank you very much. As it stands, I'm sorry for the state of PvP in this game, so far from what it could have been. Til huge changes are brought (erasing Expertise, implementing side vs side openworld pvp, consequences for loss and wins at a faction level...), PvP is a mere minigame.

@Smuglebunny : there are PvP servers to milk the pvp-interested population and you said it yourself : you wouldn't pay if there wasn't some pvp...

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dreoff
07.07.2013 , 02:32 AM | #26
Umm...also, If I may, There was a set of free pve starting gear once upon a time by the name of tionese, sure it wasn't good, at all, but it was free and PvE. Just wanted to point that out.
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07.07.2013 , 03:42 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by dreoff View Post
Umm...also, If I may, There was a set of free pve starting gear once upon a time by the name of tionese, sure it wasn't good, at all, but it was free and PvE. Just wanted to point that out.
There was also a set of free pvp recruit gear, but those so called pvers were too dumb to equip it, that's why bolster was implemented.
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schranz
07.07.2013 , 06:45 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Pekoo View Post
There was also a set of free pvp recruit gear, but those so called pvers were too dumb to equip it, that's why bolster was implemented.

+10 haha lol they probably sold it to repay for a youtube reinacting wipefest :P

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uniz
07.07.2013 , 07:38 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Smuglebunny View Post
If PVP is a .5% minigame why are there PVP servers and what are those people supposed to do?

This is blatant bias. I hate boring PVE content. Its AI it does the same thing over and over it cannot ever be a challenge cuz there is no human behind it. If there was no PVP I would not play at all. PVE exists to lvl only.

I don't care what mechanics there are in OPS of FPs cuz I wont ever be in one. But bolster needs to go. Immediately. I'm SHOCKED that a game maker can treat an entire section of its population so badly and still have a game. I guess lots of people just wanna kill the same monster the same way over and over to get gear to kill that same monster again when it does more damage faster, big challenge.

REMOVE BOLSTER yesterday!
what you just posted about pve is EXACTLY what pvp is. you have only 8 mob types since launch. you have only a few instances. there is no world pvp. how can you keep queueing up into the same instances (warfronts) for pvp, kill the same 8 almost exactly the same spec mobs who will react almost the exactly the same way and call that challenging and not boring. even if they react differently you know you have a newb and will farm him for the valor piņata that he is. that is pvp now days.

pvp is a minigame. it started out that way and still is in all mmos that copied the WOW pvp mechanic. eq1 had real pvp where you actually could only have ONE toon and you got to loot one item from a person when you killed them. it had none of the loser in warfront getting rewards crap.

pvp is nothing more than a minigame that solo players who play intermittently can log on and work toward some gear at their leisure. also it attracts the more instant gratification type of gamer which the op comes across as. imo pvp coupled in a pve mmo has ruined many with its mechanics being forced on pvers. but that is a different topic altogether.

raiding is a gear progression in every mmo. some have made it better than others but it is still there. you need beginning raid gear for the beginning raid zone(s) and then progress from there from lesser difficulty to more difficulty. some pvp has this too but the thing is. in pve you must actually WIN all the time.

bolster was only added to pvp to help SAVE it. since it was added more players got involved and played it on the pve servers. without it it would have died and bioware would have lost even more subscriptions. that is why we have bolster.

there is no need to change pve just because pvp was designed as a failure in this mmo.

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Dismayven
07.07.2013 , 09:02 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by akabane_k View Post
so you actually think pve is near as good as pvp gear in pvp? I do about 10% less dmg and take around 15% more dmg if i use pve gear rather than pvp. But like I said, just because you cannot kill someone does not make their gear better or even the same as yours.
Since there is no gear progression, go buy some cheap greens off the gtn and use them, according to you they are the same as partisan/conqueror. Post your results
ya but if ur in pve gear in all 72's/75's you will do more than 10% more dmg and have more than 15% dmg reduction over somebody in full conq/partisan gear. think what u want tho lol.

i know this for a fact cuz most of my 55's have pve gear when i do pve and i have 1 char in full conq gear. the pve geared chars do better simply cuz of the HUGE stat difference. i dont really care if they change this or not since i have several 55's and i have pve and pvp gear so dont matter to me. i just think it is funny you leave out this half of the information to try and prove your point with half truths.....just shows you are either ignorant or you leave this information out cuz you know you are wrong lmao.