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paowee
07.01.2013 , 11:43 AM | #531
Quote: Originally Posted by oofalong View Post
Several of the top parses are now being posted by members of guilds who have cleared NiM TfB.

Is it worth creating a new thread or separate leader boards based on gear tier?
True. Maybe OP can put a Full UW gear - tag lol if he has the time. i like the idea of a second set of of leaderboards for the new gear tho.

My parses do not have a single Kell Dragon mod or enhancement, They are FULL UW gear. The next time I will update them is when i get FULL KD.

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http://www.torparse.com/a/302905/tim...594/0/Overview

Engineering/Saboteur
1. B'oarder - Sniper - Engineering 7/36/3 - 3483
http://www.torparse.com/a/294248/tim...0/Damage+Dealt
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Gorband
07.01.2013 , 12:06 PM | #532
Quote: Originally Posted by Frogmite View Post
Miravi
Marader-Annihilation(36-7-3)
3039dps.http://www.torparse.com/a/316842
Sadly started with a full fury bar, was great parse though
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Rahizm
07.01.2013 , 12:23 PM | #533
Tan'qu - Vanguard - Hybrid (8 / 22 / 16) - 2621.82 DPS
Link to log: http://www.torparse.com/a/315260/tim...669/0/Overview

Also, Daharel's Commando log leads to a lower DPS log than reported.

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Gorband
07.01.2013 , 01:14 PM | #534
Quote: Originally Posted by oofalong View Post
First off, Fovoss pre-built buffs and resource is his/her parse. I don't know if this is against the rules or not, but I am just pointing it out.

Several of the top parses are now being posted by members of guilds who have cleared NiM TfB, which means they have access to one or more Kell Dragon pieces and have a higher theoretical DPS cap. I feel it is kind of meaningless to compare BiS 72 DPS numbers with BiS 75 numbers. (The matter will become more severe next week with NiM S&V.)

Is it worth creating a new thread or separate leader boards based on gear tier?
It's true that there is a higher theoretical DPS cap but eventually everyone who has top parses to post will have 72+ gear, and as this thread is more of a means to see how different dps classes perform against others, everyone has gotten the general idea of how 72 geared dps parses fair against others. It would be interesting to see a growth table for specific tiers of gear, but that may be a little much for people to wrap their minds around

Myself specifically in 72 bis I was doing (2900-2950), but now with 3x pieces (Offhand, Relic, Bracers) of Kell I do (2950-3000).
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oofalong
07.01.2013 , 01:37 PM | #535
Quote: Originally Posted by Gorband View Post
It's true that there is a higher theoretical DPS cap but eventually everyone who has top parses to post will have 72+ gear, and as this thread is more of a means to see how different dps classes perform against others...
I thought this thread was about comparing DPS build/specs while controlling as many variables as possible; there is a slight change from what you say. Considering Shadows/Assassins do noticeably less DPS it may be a long time until they achieve greater than 72 gear, which means the disparity will continue to widen.

Also, I personally used this thread as a means to validate theorycrafting efforts.
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You are correct Oofalong.

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paowee
07.01.2013 , 02:20 PM | #536
Quote: Originally Posted by oofalong View Post
I thought this thread was about comparing DPS build/specs while controlling as many variables as possible; there is a slight change from what you say. Considering Shadows/Assassins do noticeably less DPS it may be a long time until they achieve greater than 72 gear, which means the disparity will continue to widen.

Also, I personally used this thread as a means to validate theorycrafting efforts.
I agree, there was a semi-lengthy conversation a while back about the purpose of t his thread. And (i think) the "majority" of the people who have been posting and check out logs agreed that these parses are useful information when comparing spec by spec. Not Sniper versus Assassin for example. One can see this in the numerous individual conversations that goes on solely between the juggs and guardians, then you have the mercs / commandos talking to each other, abd more recently the sin / shadow DPSers (etc etc).
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theRaiders
07.01.2013 , 03:12 PM | #537
Swingin'richard - Sage - Balance - 05/05/36 - 2723

http://www.torparse.com/a/298483/29/0/Damage+Dealt
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JediMasterNippin
07.01.2013 , 04:20 PM | #538
Nipin - Powertech - Hybrid 2/22/22-2749.55

Have not run this spec a lot and need to work on getting retractable blade back up asap after the dot falls off. Also I did not use any adrinals so if I get some I am sure I could get higher with added adrinals plus getting better at reapplying the bleed. Also I am still running dreadguard power click relic and a crafted implant non augmented, so I could bump it up even more by replacing those 2 pieces also.


http://www.torparse.com/a/317588/tim...237/0/Overview

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Airwolfe
07.01.2013 , 05:19 PM | #539
Quote: Originally Posted by MisterMuse View Post
Firstly I would like to remind everyone to try to be as respectful as possible. Questions on odd patters in parses are always appreciated as I would like as much help as possible but it must be presented with decency, please don't accuse people of cheating until definite proof can be presented.

Secondly I have been reviewing a couple of parses after questions about Beastfury's record and Invinc's Lethality and come to a solution which I believe is manageable.

Stacks such as Rage/Focus or buffs which requires combat are not allowed to be present before the start of the parse. However building Centering or adding buffs using respec is allowed due to that such measures can always be used during actual raid fights. I am always open to suggestions however and please say, with reasoning, if anyone has any objections.

Lastly, are people interested in a "Top 5/10" list where an armor debuff is allowed to evaluate the effectiveness of each class in an actual raid situation?
Sounds reasonable on what's allowed/disqualified. I think figuring out class performance in raids is what this thread is most useful for (except for assassin/shadows which obviously can perform a bit higher in actual raids - but the same can be said for marauder/sentinel as well..and any other class with a sub 30% skill) thus anyone not possibly done in a raid should be disqualified.

But as to armor debuff parse, I think it just decreases accessibility and doesn't really show anything extra - no class benefits more than any other class by having armor debuff present (as far as I know? maybe melee/ranged would benefit more than tech/force predominant people though).
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Airwolfe
07.01.2013 , 05:24 PM | #540
Quote: Originally Posted by paowee View Post
Airwolfe, Marauder <Chosen> begs to differ... lol. Anyway i should let you Maras talk about it
About Sythise parse, no there wasn't pre-stacked rage. Beastfury's yes.
I never commented on that one. Haven't looked at it too closely.
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