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Bioanalysis...useless now?


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Hockaday
06.28.2013 , 11:22 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
Have you actually looked at the amount of damage that it does? It's not an insignificant amount, nor is the fact that it can actually take a fair number of hits before it dies. Hell, getting to use Heroic Moment simply because you're Bioan was *disgustingly* good, especially since it's an ability designed for *solo play*.

Secondly, you still get to gather mats as a Bioan, in every single FP. All of them have dogs you can rip mats off of. Arch doesn't get to do any of that. Even if you got nothing else, you'd still get the benefits of gathering mats while doing the FP so it's *still* not useless.

"Useless" specifically means "of no use". In order for Bioan to be useless, the pet would need to deal no damage at all (which it doesn't) and provide no mats whatsoever for the FP (which it doesn't). Bioan *still* has a lot of use to it. The fact that it doesn't provide the bugged ability to use the solo play mega-CD of doom when summoning said pet doesn't make it anywhere *near* useless.

Show me the parse please then, because I see no significant damage from it. Gathering mats, does not pertain to OPs/FPs/Heroics in this instance. The thread is purely pointed to the pet. I can gather resources -anywhere- So can any other gathering skill. So yes, that skill, until the parse shows some -amazing- dps for it, is not useful. You can gather mats anywhere, it does not provide anything to the group besides a pet that, and I stress -might- do minute damage. Even while leveling the damage wasn't noticeable, let alone in a 55 hm.

So yes, it is of no use. Also, I think I'd kick a member for gathering mats in a FP, unless they asked and we all agreed. It's so slow, I'd rather get my run over with.
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06.29.2013 , 10:46 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Hockaday View Post
Show me the parse please then, because I see no significant damage from it. Gathering mats, does not pertain to OPs/FPs/Heroics in this instance. The thread is purely pointed to the pet. I can gather resources -anywhere- So can any other gathering skill. So yes, that skill, until the parse shows some -amazing- dps for it, is not useful. You can gather mats anywhere, it does not provide anything to the group besides a pet that, and I stress -might- do minute damage. Even while leveling the damage wasn't noticeable, let alone in a 55 hm.

So yes, it is of no use. Also, I think I'd kick a member for gathering mats in a FP, unless they asked and we all agreed. It's so slow, I'd rather get my run over with.
Except your title of the thread states no such thing. "Bioanalysis....useless now?" makes no distinction about it only pertaining to the use of pets to obtain a Heroic moment in a FP/OP. Getting all snarky because you made a misleading title to get attention is your own fault.

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06.29.2013 , 11:33 AM | #13
Yes, because we all pick our Crew Skills based off of how useful we perceive them to be in flashpoints. This is a travesty and must be rectified! Bioware, please fix Bioanalysis!!!!!!
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06.29.2013 , 12:06 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Hockaday View Post
Show me the parse please then, because I see no significant damage from it. Gathering mats, does not pertain to OPs/FPs/Heroics in this instance. The thread is purely pointed to the pet. I can gather resources -anywhere- So can any other gathering skill. So yes, that skill, until the parse shows some -amazing- dps for it, is not useful. You can gather mats anywhere, it does not provide anything to the group besides a pet that, and I stress -might- do minute damage. Even while leveling the damage wasn't noticeable, let alone in a 55 hm.

So yes, it is of no use. Also, I think I'd kick a member for gathering mats in a FP, unless they asked and we all agreed. It's so slow, I'd rather get my run over with.
You sound like the type of person I would kick out of my FP's and be sure to tell people not to group with as much of an unpleasant person you seem like, point of the matter is that Bioanalysis is not worthless, you're only mad because it doesn't let you take advantage of what was clearly a glitch.

Also I've seen that pet critting for 2K and doing normal hits of close to 1K, that isn't something to sneeze at.
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06.29.2013 , 04:42 PM | #15
Useless because you can't use it in an unintended way that really wasnt all that special to begin with? /facepalm
Edit: I really wishI wasn't on my pos phone so I could quote the dude the poster above did. But did you REALLY just say youd kick someone for gathering mats in a fp? Not only does that sound like a dbag move to begin with but fps are an AMAZING way to level your crew skills. IMO one of the more enticing reasons to run fps while leveling. You are the kind of person I would kick and not ignore, just so I could hope to be able to do it again.

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Kyriosgundam
06.29.2013 , 05:41 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Grimsblood View Post
Yes, because we all pick our Crew Skills based off of how useful we perceive them to be in flashpoints. This is a travesty and must be rectified! Bioware, please fix Bioanalysis!!!!!!
I am sorry but this statement is way off the mark. There is nothing wrong with Bioanalysis I have 2 characters using it and it has helped me in Flashpoints and operations more times than I can count. And no skills don't need to summon pets for you in Flashpoints or Operations to be useful. Hell It allowed me to provide stims and medpacs for those who had run out during the course of completing the Flashpoint or Operation. As to the summoned pet allowing you to use your heroic moment that is a recurring bug that pops up now and again I have been playing the game since launch and have seen it on and off in the year the game has been running.
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06.29.2013 , 05:44 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by TrillOG- View Post
Useless because you can't use it in an unintended way that really wasnt all that special to begin with? /facepalm
Edit: I really wishI wasn't on my pos phone so I could quote the dude the poster above did. But did you REALLY just say youd kick someone for gathering mats in a fp? Not only does that sound like a dbag move to begin with but fps are an AMAZING way to level your crew skills. IMO one of the more enticing reasons to run fps while leveling. You are the kind of person I would kick and not ignore, just so I could hope to be able to do it again.
Agreed kicking someone from an Op or FP just for gathering mats is being extremely stupid. as you stated FP and Ops (depending on which one your doing) are an awesome way to level your gathering crew skills more so than sending you comps on missions that cost you credits and in some cases with nothing to show for it.
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TrillOG-
06.29.2013 , 05:44 PM | #18
Useless because you can't use it in an unintended way that really wasnt all that special to begin with? /facepalm

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06.29.2013 , 06:43 PM | #19
Does it only not work with bioanalysis pets, or does it now also not work with scavenged droids.

Because both used to give the Heroic Moment, havnt tried either out in a while
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06.30.2013 , 04:19 AM | #20
even heroic moment is not so decisive in a HM 55...you have best dps and heals from your group mates..