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Pvp bolster not fixed. Hurry up Titan.

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Pvp bolster not fixed. Hurry up Titan.
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BoushhDC
06.27.2013 , 12:54 AM | #101
Quote: Originally Posted by BoushhDC View Post
I did extensive testing yesterday ... comparing my Conq. gear with *some* crafted gear. [...]
I neglected to mention, with regard to the above post with my gear comparison, something of note. I spent a huge amount of time that day optimizing the mixed crafted and pvp armor for the test to the point not just of augmenting, but also stripping the the mod & enhancement out of my Conq weapon in order to make the rest of the Conq. armor the best it could be. In short, for the purposes of the test, I gave the Crafted-PvP gear combo the *absolute* max amount of stats I could cram into it. There's no way I could get those numbers (in the first section) any higher.

By contrast, when I replaced the crafted pieces with the Conqueror mainhand, earpiece, and 2 implants, I threw the not-optimal mod & enhancement I'd stripped out of my armor back into my Conq. weapon. Basically, I did what I could with augments, but other than that, the Conq. gear is NOT optimized; not min-maxed. In other words, those numbers would continue to improve with replacing some of the item modifications. I thought that was an important enough distinction to point out for those of the view that the differences between the PvP vs. crafted 54 purples was too small to make the gear grind worthwhile.
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Grimknivur
06.27.2013 , 02:06 AM | #102
http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...57#post6121757
04.09.2013
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Bolster will bolster characters up to right below Partisan gear, the new level 55 PvP set gear.
http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...88#post6171888
04.17.2013
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Although we always want to keep the PvP environment competitive even for players not wearing full PvP sets, Partisan and Conqueror should be performing better in Warzones than their PvE counterparts.
Nothing is fixed as long as PVE gear > Partisan gear. The discussion should be about that instead of PVE vs Conqueror.

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NuSeC
06.27.2013 , 02:22 AM | #103
Quote: Originally Posted by Grimknivur View Post
http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...57#post6121757
04.09.2013


http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...88#post6171888
04.17.2013


Nothing is fixed as long as PVE gear > Partisan gear. The discussion should be about that instead of PVE vs Conqueror.

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islander
06.27.2013 , 09:48 AM | #104
Quote: Originally Posted by Floplag View Post
Im sorry but lol @ hard earned.
The only thing you have to do to get them is invest time.. it has nothing to do with skill or aiblity or anything else.. you could suck eggs in every WZ you are in, but if you do enough of them you get the shiny new toys
gear has nothing to do with anything other than the fact you need more sunlight.. get over yourselves.
This is both correct, and incorrect.

The same time argument can be made for PvE gear, the obvious exception is you can't really suck eggs and get gear.

Ultimately, what you fail to realize is that MMO grinds have been here since the dawn of the era. They are put in on PURPOSE. Else we'd still be wearing our BiS Battlemaster gear.
This overrides your silly inference of needing more sunlight, which is just an insult covering your own laziness. Having a RL isn't an excuse for properly gearing one character eventually.
Self-entitled society, you fit right in with the root cause of the degradation of MMORPGs today.

Quote: Originally Posted by Comfterbilly View Post
I love Bolster. Crafted gear should be the best gear in the game otherwise what's the point in crafting? Grinding for gear is stupid. "I have more gear than you so my hits do more DPS to you and your hits do less DPS to me, that means I'm "good"".
Again, a lazy self-entitled answer for someone who doesn't want to put the time in, and skip the standard MMO grind that Bioware INTENDS. The point in crafting is making gear for alts, making items for profit. This MMO is set up like every other major one - you RAID for the best PvE gear, you PVP for the best PvP gear.

Moreover, you should realize that crafting is as much an afterthought as PvP is to Bioware. If it wasn't, you wouldn't see all the great designs get fed to the cartel market, instead of...you know...crafters.

Any unintended (read: lolbolster) side effect detracts from these long term objectives. A dev himself (Hinkle) said it was never really intended for level 54 crafted crap to replace PvP gear 100%. He said the best PvE gear should bolster to approximately 65-70% of max expertise. Between that and the innate statistical gains, it made things reasonably balanced while still gives a modest edge to PvP gear.

You don't see Bolster in raids, do you?

it's crystal clear to anyone who's objective and can read Bioware's posts that the only problem with these level 54 items is the bolster on expertise. The rest of the statistical bolster is fine.

Stop being lazy, stop being terrible, and earn your gear just like the rest of us. Less QQ, more pew-pew.
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BoushhDC
06.27.2013 , 10:32 AM | #105
Quote: Originally Posted by Grimknivur View Post
http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...57#post6121757

Nothing is fixed as long as PVE gear > Partisan gear. The discussion should be about that instead of PVE vs Conqueror.
Then post your stats. Btw, Partisan can be optimized too (the vendors sell the mods & enhancements). I just think it's a waste to do so since it's a stepping stone set, a gateway set, basically.
All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved. --Sun Tzu

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Pistols
06.27.2013 , 10:36 AM | #106
Quote: Originally Posted by BoushhDC View Post
Then post your stats. Btw, Partisan can be optimized too (the vendors sell the mods & enhancements). I just think it's a waste to do so since it's a stepping stone set.
I dunno, optimized Partisan is a little better than some non-optimized Conq, but the difference isn't that vast at all.

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BoushhDC
06.27.2013 , 11:06 AM | #107
Quote: Originally Posted by Pistols View Post
I dunno, optimized Partisan is a little better than non-optimized Conq, but the difference isn't that vast at all.
There ya go then, Grimknivur.
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saido
06.28.2013 , 05:25 AM | #108
I have L50 PVE gear. I put two expertise barrels +41 (or thereabouts) into my blasters. Using these my EXP went to 1890. I swapped these out for two blasters with a damage of about 170-240, low level guns.

My EXP went to the cap of 2018. Why would I bother with conq' gear when I can hit 2018 EXP with PVE gear (and zero-expertise capping me?). My kit it's all orange with commendation mods, and blues only. I'd rather stack nice PVE attributes on top of my 2018 expertise.
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islander
06.28.2013 , 06:38 AM | #109
Quote: Originally Posted by Pistols View Post
I dunno, optimized Partisan is a little better than some non-optimized Conq, but the difference isn't that vast at all.
Yeah, the main difference is you trade off some health and main stat but you get slightly more 'overall power' with the endurance minimized partisan pieces.
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L-RANDLE
06.28.2013 , 07:50 AM | #110
Quote: Originally Posted by saido View Post
I have L50 PVE gear. I put two expertise barrels +41 (or thereabouts) into my blasters. Using these my EXP went to 1890. I swapped these out for two blasters with a damage of about 170-240, low level guns.

My EXP went to the cap of 2018. Why would I bother with conq' gear when I can hit 2018 EXP with PVE gear (and zero-expertise capping me?). My kit it's all orange with commendation mods, and blues only. I'd rather stack nice PVE attributes on top of my 2018 expertise.
Why bother? Lol... Show some SS of you being at cap with PvE gear on...

Expertise isn't the only thing that matters in PVP either. What is you HP? My guess around 24K.... If you are a casual, fine, but if you actually want to have the best performance you need PVP gear...
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