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paowee
06.25.2013 , 01:19 PM | #451
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a-n-i-k-i
06.25.2013 , 04:09 PM | #452
Quote: Originally Posted by WillLongstick View Post
I don't know how Assassinate works into the under-30% rotation, so I just have to say that it will increase the DPS some. Now compare Sammul's 2948+ DPS to the Mercs who don't have Execute talents and do get an Armor Debuff.
I'm not sure what is your point but I just want to clarify something.
Shadow dps is inconsistent, both specs but especially infiltration/deception.
Our gap can be about 250 dps for two parses on a dummy.
The average dps for a "10 parses in a row" is much lower than other classes.
It's a leaderboard, yeah, but in a real fight we're almost never in those luck and crits ranges.
Here it's just the best parses (record) for each class, it's not a good representation of what can be achieved for a class, and particularly shadows.

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johnbgood
06.25.2013 , 04:41 PM | #453
Thadalina-Scoundrel-DirtyFighting 3/7/36-2893
http://www.torparse.com/a/307630/35/0/Overview

I used the flechette opener and cut the end of the parse.

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Falver
06.25.2013 , 06:47 PM | #454
Claimed-Gunslinger-Full Saboteur Rolling-7/36/3
3345 DPS
http://www.torparse.com/a/307075/tim...0/Damage+Dealt
Aimed shot variant.

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Gyronamics
06.25.2013 , 07:53 PM | #455
Not sure if I'm knocked off the board yet or not but if not...

Hotwired - Commando - Assault 5/8/33 - 2851

http://www.torparse.com/a/308048/tim...0/Damage+Dealt

Gearing is basically 72 maxed
One 69 armouring, one 69 enh, Verpine Mk2 instead of UW ear
Relics are UWSA and BMRoFS
Notwired @ Not Good Enough @ TRE

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Sam_WarDragon
06.26.2013 , 12:21 AM | #456
Quote: Originally Posted by a-n-i-k-i View Post
I'm not sure what is your point but I just want to clarify something.
Shadow dps is inconsistent, both specs but especially infiltration/deception.
Our gap can be about 250 dps for two parses on a dummy.
The average dps for a "10 parses in a row" is much lower than other classes.
It's a leaderboard, yeah, but in a real fight we're almost never in those luck and crits ranges.
Here it's just the best parses (record) for each class, it's not a good representation of what can be achieved for a class, and particularly shadows.
i never have 250 dps difference between parses unless i really screw up my rotation and that goes for anyone. I gear myself for consistency. I always parse 5 times... change gear then parse 5 times and go with the average better parse. Even then, the last time i was parsing i was consistently between 2575 and 2650 and with a few more tweaks was able to hit 2672. thats at most a 97 dps diff, not 250. I have been a deception assassin since day 1 release. Have always been very competitive with other dps. Am i the best sin? hell no... right now i believe that goes to aranelde cause he can play both specs very well. I hate madness. I tried it and put out good numbers but couldnt stand the playstyle so went back to decption and made it work for me. If you look at his numbers for a Nim DG kill he keeps up and beats a few of the mercs consistently. I think thats all gort is trying to say here is if you play your class to its max you can be competitive. Will other classes be better? Of course. But ill take an experienced raider who cares about downing a boss more then their numbers on a dummy that stands still any day.

PS. If my tone is offensive i apoligize because im drunk :P
Sammul - Assassin
<Select Few>
Mandelfett - Mercenary
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Slitharius
06.26.2013 , 12:47 AM | #457
Quote: Originally Posted by namesaretough View Post
Followthrough (instant cast, 1.5s GCD)
Orbital (2s cast)
Ambush (1.5s cast)

5s of no damage, should happen every ~45s. You should also check the log before calling people cheaters.
Maybe you should read more carefully:
Quote:
Coincidence? I'm willing to give both B'oarder and Roovin the benefit of the doubt and say it is.
I'm not calling ANYONE a cheater. I'd like that to be very clear. What i really want is for someone with more knowledge than i have to explain the enormous spikes in dps in those 2 parses. Especially, when they occur well into a parse. And, so you know, i have looked at the logs for both parses extensively. For example, in B'oarder's parse at 141 seconds (1 second before the spike) his dps is 3055.36, making his total damage at that point 430806. Add the damage done at 142s (10880) and recalculate dps and you get 3110.46 at that point. To get a spike from 3055.63 dps to 10,880 dps at that moment he would've had to have done damage totaling 1,114,154 within that 1 second! Do the math numbers don't lie! The same math applies to each spot that i pointed out. Again, I was just looking for an explanation. If your satisfied with taking the total damage and dividing it by the length of the parse and making sure the numbers match that's good enough for me.
Slitharius- 55 Sorcerer Slithanari- 55 Operative
Slithsnipe- 55 Sniper Slithmaru- 55 Marauder
APEX- The Harbinger

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paowee
06.26.2013 , 01:40 AM | #458
Quote: Originally Posted by Slitharius View Post
Maybe you should read more carefully:


I'm not calling ANYONE a cheater. I'd like that to be very clear.
Quote:
What we're seeing here is 1 of 2 things:
A) These parses are not single 5 minute+ parses but 2 or 3 shorter parses combined in to 1.
B) Both of these parsers have found an exploit in the way SWTOR and/or TORparse upload combat data
TEXT
Hi its me B'oarder.

I don't really know what to tell you. I don't know how torparse does their upload combat data thingy (B) and I don't know why my parses have huge spikes (A). I just practice on the dummy, upload the log and then look at it. Here are more parses. They're all spiky. Check out 3098, 3103 DPS and and 741s of the 16m 48s parse for some crazy spikyness. The 17m 21s one has huge spikes all throughout it's entire length as well.

3001 DPS 17m 21s http://www.torparse.com/a/289775/tim...0/Damage+Dealt
3014 DPS 16m 48s http://www.torparse.com/a/289775/tim...0/Damage+Dealt
3050 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/289775/tim...0/Damage+Dealt
3126 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/302905/tim...0/Damage+Dealt
3098 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/302344/tim...0/Damage+Dealt
3092 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/304422/tim...0/Damage+Dealt
3084 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/302344/tim...0/Damage+Dealt
3087 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/300924/tim...0/Damage+Dealt
3087 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/289775/tim...0/Damage+Dealt
3103 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/288190/tim...0/Damage+Dealt
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MisterMuse
06.26.2013 , 05:06 AM | #459
Firstly I would like to remind everyone to try to be as respectful as possible. Questions on odd patters in parses are always appreciated as I would like as much help as possible but it must be presented with decency, please don't accuse people of cheating until definite proof can be presented.

Secondly I have been reviewing a couple of parses after questions about Beastfury's record and Invinc's Lethality and come to a solution which I believe is manageable.

Stacks such as Rage/Focus or buffs which requires combat are not allowed to be present before the start of the parse. However building Centering or adding buffs using respec is allowed due to that such measures can always be used during actual raid fights. I am always open to suggestions however and please say, with reasoning, if anyone has any objections.

Lastly, are people interested in a "Top 5/10" list where an armor debuff is allowed to evaluate the effectiveness of each class in an actual raid situation?

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a-n-i-k-i
06.26.2013 , 06:12 AM | #460
Quote: Originally Posted by Sam_WarDragon View Post
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PS. If my tone is offensive i apoligize because im drunk :P
That wasn't offensive, no problem.

Well first, 5 parses to judge a gear isn't enough, neither 10 parses, but that's not the point.
If I look some of your parsing sessions, I can see that sometimes you have fight of 2-3 minutes length, I presume you're watching your dps live with a standalone client.
If so, it explains why you stop before the 5 minutes and why you can never observe a real bad luck parse.
You're the first one to tell me infiltration doesn't have a big gap, I know that my stuff is too crit-dependant, but I can't see the stats that will allow a max gap of 100dps, if you have unusual ratings, I'll be happy to know them

For the second part about being competitive, well I never talked about that, I'll attribute that to the fact you were drunk