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Pvp bolster not fixed. Hurry up Titan.
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ZergDevil
06.25.2013 , 12:52 PM | #21
Bolster™ - Working As Intended™


I really thought they could fix it today, but maybe with 3.0 next year
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Herbzta
06.25.2013 , 01:01 PM | #22
i currently used purple PVE implants and ear and i have

1743 main AP
1418.2 tech power
77.08 surge
1973 expertise (58.66 dmg boost)



with conqueror implants/ear i have:

1737 main AP
1412.3 techpower
76.01 surge
2018 expertise


so i loose 5 AP and 1% surge but gain 1.34% overall dmg

this patch didn't really fix anything...

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Pistols
06.25.2013 , 01:04 PM | #23
I sent Eric Musco a PM with a link to this thread, let's give him some time to pass it on and see what is what.

The more info people can SCREENSHOT would be helpful please...

Thanks.

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islander
06.25.2013 , 01:07 PM | #24
Come on people, you can't all be 'working' today
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Jadescythe
06.25.2013 , 01:09 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by islander View Post
Come on people, you can't all be 'working' today
Being on these forums feels like work some days...
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KettleBelll
06.25.2013 , 01:10 PM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by PINKPARAKEET View Post
Bolster is such a fail... What was so bad about recruit gear anyways?
People weren't smart enough to get it, and use it.


These same people though, would outright bash SWTOR to anyone that would listen though.... even though they couldn't figure out recruit gear.


The bolster intent was to remove the step of these people figuring out how to get recruit gear, and put it on.
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funkiestj
06.25.2013 , 01:30 PM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Herbzta View Post
i currently used purple PVE implants and ear and i have

1743 main AP
1418.2 tech power
77.08 surge
1973 expertise (58.66 dmg boost)



with conqueror implants/ear i have:

1737 main AP
1412.3 techpower
76.01 surge
2018 expertise


so i loose 5 AP and 1% surge but gain 1.34% overall dmg

this patch didn't really fix anything...

With the expertise boost, the two items are about even or perhaps the conqueror is a few points better. That said, the PvE item must be better than partizan and that is very very wrong.

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Evuo
06.25.2013 , 01:33 PM | #28
Let's add some actual evidence to the discussion. I used all the maximum power crafted pieces (I realize all classes do not have this option for some slots but this is intended to be best case scenario).

A conqueror relic vs. matrix cube
http://imgur.com/a/khfA5

(just a bolstered stat comparison, does not include the value of the proc(s))
+11 bonus damage
-4 endurance
-27 crit rating (.71 crit in this case)

A crafted earpiece vs. the conqueror earpiece
http://imgur.com/a/4W0Dx

-15 exp
+.8 bonus damage
-32 endurance
+108 acc
-64 surge
-.11 crit (crit is from the main stat difference)

A crafted implant vs. the conqueror implant
http://imgur.com/a/w0Fqj

Crafed vs. conq
-15 exp
+2.7 bd
-.08 crit (crit is from the main stat difference)
+.63 surge
-42 end

A crafted weapon vs. a min/maxed partisan weapon
http://imgur.com/a/sEpm0

-19 exp
+18.2 bd
-85 end
-60 surge
-.07 crit (crit is from main stat)
+119 accuracy

Conq vs. Part stat difference:

5 power
7 Main stat
8 endurance
4 surge

Total:
5 * 0.23 = 1.15
7 * 0.2 = 1.4
1.4 + 1.15 = 2.55 bonus damage difference

so crafted vs. a conq
-19 exp
+15.65 bd
-93 end
-64 surge
+119 accuracy
-some minor amount of crit from main stat


A crafted weapon vs. a campaign weapon
http://imgur.com/a/rrTrA

-19 exp
+7.1 bd
-59 end
+119 acc
-57 surge
-.08 crit (crit from main stat)

A campaign weapon vs. a partisan weapon
http://imgur.com/a/IEe7R

+11.1 bd
-26 end
-3 surge
+.01 crit (crit from main stat)

vs. a conq
+8.55 bd
-34 end
-7 surge

Crafted, in my opinion, is not better than conqueror as the trade-offs are too high. However, the campaign weapon seems like a more reasonable trade.

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Kegparty
06.25.2013 , 01:44 PM | #29
I also noticed this

Patch notes:
Quote:
Expertise again caps appropriately at 2018 instead of 2013. This correction to a rounding error will result in a slight reduction in PvP Damage Boost, PvP Damage Reduction, and PvP Healing Boost for expertise values below 2018.

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Herbzta
06.25.2013 , 01:49 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by funkiestj View Post
With the expertise boost, the two items are about even or perhaps the conqueror is a few points better. That said, the PvE item must be better than partizan and that is very very wrong.
exactly
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