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Macros for pvp, respecing, grabbing huttballs. Legal?

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Macros for pvp, respecing, grabbing huttballs. Legal?
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06.20.2013 , 11:45 AM | #91
Seriously though does anyone know if the CD resets on an ability you lose/gain back through a respec into the same tree?

If a Guardian could respec every time he scored to reset Warding Call that would be pretty bad.
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06.20.2013 , 11:51 AM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by Capt_Beers View Post
Seriously though does anyone know if the CD resets on an ability you lose/gain back through a respec into the same tree?

If a Guardian could respec every time he scored to reset Warding Call that would be pretty bad.
It keeps the CD timer (Skill comes back with the same CD amount). 100% sure, I tested it last night. Doesn't matter how, where, what tree, etc that you respec in. This is at least true for juggs, not sure on the other classes. So really the third party hacks are the only way to reset CDs.

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06.20.2013 , 12:02 PM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Maelael View Post
It keeps the CD timer (Skill comes back with the same CD amount). 100% sure, I tested it last night. Doesn't matter how, where, what tree, etc that you respec in. This is at least true for juggs, not sure on the other classes. So really the third party hacks are the only way to reset CDs.
Good to know. Thanks for the confirmation.
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06.20.2013 , 02:29 PM | #94 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  
Quote: Originally Posted by PoliteAssasin View Post
Hey guys I had a question, and hopefully a developer can chime in as well. There is a guild on my server, who shall go unnamed, that uses macros in warzones both regs and rateds in order to respec in literally 3-4 seconds, speed click the huttball on the pit, and other things. I was under the impression this wasnt in compliance with the TOS, but one of the members linked a message where he interpreted Bioware saying its ok for quality of life to mean he can do these things in pvp. Obviously this gives them huge advantages in warzones. Doesn't matter how many people you have at mid if one of them are there they will always grab the ball, and as I said, and did not exaggerate, they can switch between dps and heals, or tank and dps within a matter of 3-4 seconds while walking through a warzone.

So basically, is this against TOS or is it ok to do these things? One of the reasons we are hesitant to do rateds with them is because of the huge advantage this brings, and we don't want to do it as well to simply end up banned, just for the sake of being on equal footing. So please let me know, and if a Bioware employee could shed some light on it I would greatly appreciate it.
Chiming in....

I'll be as clear as I can be.

Automation of the game in any way is against the ToS. This includes macro'ing in order to respec during Warzone matches.

Remapping keys on a keyboard (or Nostromo or Logitech) device so that one key press == one click or ability cast within the game is fine. Using a programmable keyboard or software macro so that one key press == multiple clicks or ability casts in the game is not.

Hopefully that doesn't leave room for 'interpretation'. If it does, ask a binary question and I'll give a yes/no

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06.20.2013 , 02:34 PM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by phillip_bw View Post
if it does, ask a binary question and i'll give a yes/no
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Anzel
06.20.2013 , 02:35 PM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by Phillip_BW View Post
Chiming in....

I'll be as clear as I can be.

Automation of the game in any way is against the ToS. This includes macro'ing in order to respec during Warzone matches.

Remapping keys on a keyboard (or Nostromo or Logitech) device so that one key press == one click or ability cast within the game is fine. Using a programmable keyboard or software macro so that one key press == multiple clicks or ability casts in the game is not.

Hopefully that doesn't leave room for 'interpretation'. If it does, ask a binary question and I'll give a yes/no
What about the software that comes with the SWTOR Razer Mouse. That is specifically build for Macroing. I think this is a bit confusing for folks who forked over $100 for the hardware and software based on this exact feature set.

Now you're saying that it's illegal to use the features of a product, which is specifically co-branded with SWTOR, that you marketed for this purpose?????
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06.20.2013 , 02:38 PM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by mydogclimbstree View Post
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06.20.2013 , 02:41 PM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by Anzel View Post
What about the software that comes with the SWTOR Razer Mouse. That is specifically build for Macroing. I think this is a bit confusing for folks who forked over $100 for the hardware and software based on this exact feature set.

Now you're saying that it's illegal to use the features of a product, which is specifically co-branded with SWTOR, that you marketed for this purpose?????
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06.20.2013 , 02:41 PM | #99
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06.20.2013 , 02:41 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by Phillip_BW View Post
Chiming in....

I'll be as clear as I can be.

Automation of the game in any way is against the ToS. This includes macro'ing in order to respec during Warzone matches.

Remapping keys on a keyboard (or Nostromo or Logitech) device so that one key press == one click or ability cast within the game is fine. Using a programmable keyboard or software macro so that one key press == multiple clicks or ability casts in the game is not.

Hopefully that doesn't leave room for 'interpretation'. If it does, ask a binary question and I'll give a yes/no
Thanks for the information. However, With the mouse that you guys partnered with Razer to sell. There is a Macro window. I have not used it but at times I have been tempted to look into it. Is there anything official on that?
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