ETA on Advanced Class change?

But they aren't permanent. Just reroll! Leveling is fast anyway.

when you pick you advanced CLASS it says "This is permanent and cannot be changed"

why is that something you people cannot understand????

the devs have said your AC is your class they treat them as differetn classes. You do not ever see anyone in wow saying "i leveled a mage, so gimme a rogue at max level because i am too entitled and too lazy to level one myself" yet you self entitled people of SWTOR as asking that exact thing.

Indeed, I just selected sorcerer in-game, this very moment. The dialog window says:

not the point. and I did reroll. or did you miss when I said that I have 14 characters and its not about me?

some people are not altoholics.

some people have made a lot of progress on their character, progress that cannot be redone on a new character, because certain items that character has are not even in game anymore.

some people made a mistake, thinking they might enjoy something based on research, but reality didn't live up to the research - and they kept trying to enjoy it because their friends kept telling them that it gets better, but it never did, because personal preference! rerolling means losing all that progress, whether its credits, invested, just time or anything else - again. rerolling means that someone who might not enjoy playing the same story more than once - is faced with a choice of either having to do something that they don't enjoy, aka replay a story they have already seen, or give up completely.

and once again. the choice is permanent... right now. doesn't mean it HAS to remain permanent. its called advanced class. not THE class. advanced class. there's a room in game to change it. there's a potential that will not even cardinally change the game.

I'm also asked if I'm sure I want that particular talent every time I put another point into my talent tree. and yet, I have an option to change them later.

Can you not understand that BW can change that? Things aren't ever set in stone, you get that, right???

Once again -- please show me where they said AC = class. They've literally never said that, in fact someone has already provided the proof to show they didn't say that.

And, this has nothing to do with WoW. This is not WoW. Nor is mage -> rogue equivalent to AC swaps. Mage -> warlock or mage -> priest would be closer analogies.

lol

I'm pretty sure that if I'm doing anything I'm not telling you what to do by discussing whether or not I wish to support this suggestion. I'm also fairly positive that you do not dictate what my position is. I am perfectly capable of indicating my own position and you are probably one of the LAST folks I would ask to help me determine that position if there ever was a time that I was confused about it.

...and I'm not. My position has been made clear many times. You choosing to ignore it because your in the mood for forum PVP does not change in any way, shape or form the actual fact of my opinion and where I stand.

How about this...you stop telling folks what they can and can't discuss and I will stop telling you how to play....eh?

How's that iceskating uphill working out for ya?

Let's not pretend that's what is happening here. Not even for one second. An "atmosphere of cooperation"? Really? I mean REALLY? That's what you see in threads like these?

My position as many others who play is if class swaping happens (AC) I will hang it up for good. MMOs are losing there core values of what the genre was built on which is Trinity mechanics and character progression. This will also hurt low level players and new along with end game raiding and PvP.

I'm talking about the game itself, not the forums.

When you say things like "I always need on everything all the time", and "Don't ever tell me how to play", how does that make a great MMO? It's a viewpoint founded in self == everything, everyone else == who gives a s**t. From where I sit, that's what single-player games are for.

I thought MMO's were build on people playing together as a team? never mind that AC change doesn't remove trinity mechanics. you still have healers, tanks and dps - they just have just a tiny touch more freedom in switching between these 3 roles.

also, I would really love to hear exactly how, objectively, will AC change hurt low level players, raiding and pvp. because I can only see it bringing about improvement personally, by giving people more options and flexibility