Another lost subscription

I agree.

Though I think there are two demographics at play here:

1) Single Player Game players who are new to MMOs, and hence treat games natively as consumable and discardable. Less so then at launch though.

2) Veteran MMO players that are constantly seeking (and failing) to find the Holy Grail MMO. These folks have emotionally outgrown MMOs but do not yet realize it IMO.

The best cure in both demographics IMO is to simply play a few different MMOs in whatever rotation or sequence that prevents boredom and overcomes "perceived shortcomings" of any single MMO.

Years ago I adopted a practice of having at least 3 MMOs in my stable of games to be played at any given time. And I play whichever one suits my mood and desire at any given moment in time. It has worked well for me and stood the test of time and the continuing stream of MMO releases. It also mitigates me getting frustrated and hating on any single MMO for not meeting ALL my expectations/desires.

No MMO has everything, nor content streaming, in sufficient supply to please players that are more involved then just very casual play. Players need to find their own personal solution to this challenge and stop blaming game developers for not meeting their expectations or desires.

1. Not the only draw, but this clearly was their focus, the side stuff (Space) is ATROCIOUS. Might as well play 3D Galaga...PvP too...is limited... 5WZs are the only things that give Valor? Really? No Open World PvP with any type of reward since the first couple months of the game.

2. YES, not to mention there are a pile of suits that aren't even complete. The fashion designers should be water boarded for their horrendous taste. I have watched SW films/tv more times than I can count and have yet to see a Jedi with shoulder pads, Loki's helmet, or any jedi outside of the librarian in EP 2 wear a friggin dress or skirt.

3. Yea, the rewards are junk for the most part, like in number 2, you get some orange and some blue or green. If it's a class quest make the pieces all moddable..

4. Meh, I like the hid helmet option, besides most Jedi don't wear a helmet or let alone a hat.

5. They've had 3 events, Rakghoul, Chevin, and Gree, yet they milk Gree and we've seen the others once...I'm not a programmer, but I'm guessing it wouldn't be too hard to add reputation and bring the others back rather than continue to milk Gree. If they don't update the rewards, when it comes out yet again, I have no reason to do Gree.

I'll continue to play but will be trying the Repopulation when it comes out, if it is any good, I'll be gone. I suspect with the number of anticipated games coming out in the next 6 months, this game will take another big hit, because people will want more than the regurgitated skins from the CM and the limited content releases.

Good points, but I'd add a third demographic...those that stick with a MMO for long periods of time. I like many of my guild mates played SWG for 6+ years, my accounts were active for 8. Why was this? Several reasons, community and depth of game. MMOs nowadays don't focus on that, they make it shiny like a FPS and not focus on the depth. Granted Sand Box MMOs are purely niche, but the market is there for a good one to be successful.

Don't get me wrong SWG had an abundance of problems, but if I didn't feel like killing things, the crafting was there. There still isn't a game out there with the depth of crafting SWG had. SWG Space would still offer more than even STO now. Nothing compares. PvP had instances plus open world. Factions weren't all but completely isolated from each other. You could talk to the opposite faction, group with the opposite faction, and have opposite faction alts in guild as well.

I completely agree with the OP; however I think one other discouraging trend exists.

Taking WoW as a benchmark; typically the 'quality' of content has increased over the expansions. You may disagree because of some nostalgia towards one of the expansions but if you actually objectively rated the quality of the content as you leveled from 1-90 you would come to the conclusion that the best stuff is in the 85-90 range. With the exception of a few mis-guided mis-steps the game's quality has increased over time.

Contrast that to Makeb.

Leveling 1-50 is actually a heck of a lot of fun; I recently just came back from about a 6 month hiatus and I am really enjoying playing a class quest that I hadn't yet played. Leveling in this game IS fun.

However get to Makeb and you see the quality of the 'new content'.

This should be the most troubling thing for any subscriber. Bioware did 1 thing really really well; and that was the leveling experience based on the class quests. This is where the re playability came in. With all the people that had to be fired after launch my fear is that they won't be able to reproduce this quality of content. To me that shows me that after I level through all 8 of the class quests (at level 50) I truly will be done with this game.

This is from someone who raided all the content as it was released until HM Denova (Cleared it very early; and like this guys' guild; mine fell apart when there was no new content until TFB) I haven't even played TFB or S&V but to be honest I don't really care to. Operations are fun enough the first few times but they are too short to really invest a lot of time in (Contrasting to the recent tiers from WoW who have 16 & 12 bosses?)

The trend is downward; in both subscriptions and quality of content. 3 class quests to go and I will be patiently waiting for the next game (ESO maybe?)

I'd be very surprised if you had your 20 sigils of power & wisdom in 3 weeks of raiding.

They upped the drop-rate after the next tier came out;

It is the 6k valor that would be impossible; since you can only get so much each week

Yes, this is true. However the raiding in SWTOR (even though I do love it) can be done fairly quickly. You can complete a raid in approx. 3 hours, other MMO's in 3 hours you have probably only completed 30 - 40% of it.

people are also quitting because the pressure imagined or otherwise that the need to buy premium items from the CM . when the game was subscription based we where safe in the knowledge that our sub would cover us to gain the items we wanted through a little hard work . now the CM hangs over everything you do and we are human beings not saints we see a cool cathar honour sword and want it and fritter limited real life cash into a gamble box .the only way to deal with this type of addiction is to cut at the source . ie uninstall and never look back

its not allways so black and white as some people try to make it out to be .some folks are actually enjoying the game but are constantly tempted to part with money the cant afford to use on games and the only way to fix it is to quit

Welcome to the world, everyone is trying to sell you something. It is called advertising. If you go to gym (where you usually have to pay some membership or entry fee (subscription)), you are bound to see ads for some energy drinks, special cool looking exercise shorts and what not.
As long as CM is kept to vanity items only, so no story or lore (*angrily pointing at Shroud datacubes*), I guess people should be fine with it, as it brings the much needed revenue that keeps this game running (or, to be specific, to keep EA happy so that they keep the game running}

some of you have a pretty horrible view of how the world works. in my day to day life, i really don't think everyone is out to get me or take everything they can from me. most people are actually quite kind and helpful. if i get in a relationship where the other person or entity just wants to take everything they can, to be honest those relationships probably don't last that long.