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Sohaim
06.18.2013 , 11:48 AM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
OIC. Actually, let me be more precise for you:

1) there is lore that is contained in the actual integral progression elements of the game (class story, planet mission, etc)

2) there is lore that is contained in disintegral, standalone, not required in any way to progress in the game (ie: the data-cubes)

Item 1 is NOT FLUFF because it adds both real and meaningful game progression + lore elements.
Item 2 is FLUFF because the only thing it adds for the player is some lore.

Please Note: The lore aspects of both 1 and 2 are irrelevant to the topic really. Lore is relevant to some players and not to others. This is the nature of a broad playerbase.

Hopefully that clears up the confusion for you.
Does not, Item 1 is broken because we do require to do World quests(after doing it 4 times, ive skipped Balmorra.Hoth,voss and Correlia on my new Smuggler during double exp), therefore it falls into Item 2, now anwers me, what about the dear Companions quest? it falls into two, should it be sold on the CM?

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Darth_Wicked
06.18.2013 , 11:48 AM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by Fluffyburrito View Post
Since you have to get past the capital planet in order to obtain a ship, how "quickly" did this work?

Literally the only possible thing I can think of is somehow teleporting after the starter planet, which by itself takes an hour and a half.

You can do some dailies during the same time period and earn just as much money, so I really question how quickly it could actually be exploited.

Your post doesn't really explain anything at all, especially for level 55s who have no need of a major experience boost.
Yet another perfect example of Bioware taking the shortest route to fix a problem(?) they - supposedly - created.

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Mike_Bluesky
06.18.2013 , 11:50 AM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by Mike_Bluesky View Post
So let me get this straight
progression missions = lore
not progression missions = lore but fluffy lore?
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
OIC. Actually, let me be more precise for you:

1) there is lore that is contained in the actual integral progression elements of the game (class story, planet mission, etc)

2) there is lore that is contained in disintegral, standalone, not required in any way to progress in the game (ie: the data-cubes)

Item 1 is NOT FLUFF because it adds both real and meaningful game progression + lore elements.
Item 2 is FLUFF because the only thing it adds for the player is some lore.

Please Note: The lore aspects of both 1 and 2 are irrelevant to the topic really. Lore is relevant to some players and not to others. This is the nature of a broad playerbase.

Hopefully that clears up the confusion for you.
So how I was trying too much again?

"Lore is relevant to some players and not to others." And current state of cubes pisses off players that plays this game for story.
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gorstram
06.18.2013 , 11:50 AM | #84
They really need to change the remaining rewards to BoE. That way we can at least sell the valor and XP consumable to make up for the lost credit boom. Either that or lower the value of the datacube to blue so it doesn't take up an artifact slot in the gambling pack.
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Andryah
06.18.2013 , 11:51 AM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by Sohaim View Post
i am sorry if did not understand this Properly(since english is not my first language), but are you even insuniating that we who are supposed to be "overreacting" are lunatics? do you KNOW the meaning of that world to dare and compare to this so called forum "behavior"? is that supposed to be a stealth insult andryah?
This is probably why you and I are having difficulty discussing the topic.

I did not say lunatic, I said lunacy. There is a difference.

Lunacy: as in and pertaining to the influences of emotion and passion by the Moon. The Moon and Lunacy share the same language roots in linguistic history.

By lunacy I mean exactly the traditional meaning, not the clinical meaning -------> emotion and passion that is in disproportion to the context.

Is that clear... or do I need to be more precise to avoid miscommunications and appearance of insult where none is present?
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Sohaim
06.18.2013 , 11:55 AM | #86
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
This is probably why you and I are having difficulty discussing the topic.

I did not say lunatic, I said lunacy. There is a difference.

Lunacy: as in and pertaining to the influences of emotion and passion by the Moon. The Moon and Lunacy share the same language roots in linguistic history.

By lunacy I mean exactly the traditional meaning, not the clinical meaning -------> emotion and passion that is in disproportion to the context.

Is that clear... or do I need to be more precise to avoid miscommunications and appearance of insult where none is present?
And you knew that and yet you choose to post it? when it can carry such meaning yet you posted, i am sorry but it really sounds as a steath offense
and plus ive searched that second meaning and did not find it in my physical dic, and nor on the internet "www.thefreedictionary.com/lunacy" so why would you posting something that would sound different than what you would want?

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Aries_cz
06.18.2013 , 11:56 AM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
If they put a pretzel in the cartel packs.. people would over-react and declare that they are taking over real life super markets.

I tip my hat to you for correctly characterizing the forum behavior as "overreaction".

Forum hyperbole and overreaction is what I am most likely to engage in discussion in the forums here. I guess I have a soft spot for trying to assist in treating lunacy. And it's like a predictable tide in the forum. It ebbs and flows. A few weeks ago it was Dyes. Currently it's "OMG they putting story in the CM nao!!" Next week it will probably be "OMG they putting pink bunny slippers in the CM! It should be a world drop! oh nooz!!!"
I am one of the people who have no problems with pink bunny slippers being on CM, as those are used to make you look... well, I guess someone might find them cool.
But still, I maintain my conviction that story, no matter how insignificant and disconnected, should not be part of CM, and definitely not random drop from packs.
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Mike_Bluesky
06.18.2013 , 11:57 AM | #88
Let's not stroll from the topic here..
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Andryah
06.18.2013 , 11:57 AM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by Mike_Bluesky View Post
"Lore is relevant to some players and not to others." And current state of cubes pisses off players that plays this game for story.
Everything pisses off players. So there is nothing special here, just a different piss_de_jour.

If you wish to stay emotionally worked up over the cubes, that is your choice. It feels more like a crab walk pretense of complaint about there being no more class story arcs planned IMO.

Frankly, I feel you overreacting. It's not like these silly, disconnected, and trivial cutscenes mean anything or in any way took away the existing volumes of story content in the game itself.

It's a game. Play it for what it offers, for as long as it offers you fun and enjoyment.
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Sohaim
06.18.2013 , 11:58 AM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by Aries_cz View Post
I am one of the people who have no problems with pink bunny slippers being on CM, as those are used to make you look... well, I guess someone might find them cool.
But still, I maintain my conviction that story, no matter how insignificant and disconnected, should not be part of CM, and definitely not random drop from packs.
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I finally caved today and bought the cubes from GTN as a modest sum of 500k credits for all 4, and I find the story to be... interesting, and definitely not meaningless as some might suggest. However, I am judging before setting my greedy Sith paws on Imperial Makeb, so I might be wrong
by all means those cutscenes are relevant yes, as meaning as those Companions talks, it gives insights on many things, and i think those cubes are the Shroud datalogs.