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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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ShadowHvo
06.17.2013 , 11:21 PM | #1301
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
There is nothing wrong with AC changes, its not class changes, so your right there is most likely nothing you can say to change that.

Its an mmo yes, you play with others, when you join a guild and raid with them, thats a mutual benefit, if you want to drop your role from that raid spot, they replace you, you lose your raiding spot, you are the affected one. The guild isnt going to collapse if you switch your AC.
Ofcourse the guild isn't going to collapse, but it is still affected by it
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ShadowHvo
06.17.2013 , 11:22 PM | #1302
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
Reread the original post, I clearly stated you get skill tree abilities as well.
Ehmm...

Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
You gain skill tree abilities. Not all commandos get those unless they pick that tree. Completely different.
If I pick vanguard, I get vanguard abilities and trooper, and skill tree abilities for whatever I put my points in.
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PeterTLJr
06.17.2013 , 11:24 PM | #1303
Quote: Originally Posted by ShadowHvo View Post
Ehmm...



And...?
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Nythain
06.17.2013 , 11:27 PM | #1304
Still curious how/why a Juggernaut's ability to go from Tank to DPS by switching to Marauder is different than a Juggernaut's ability to go from Tank to DPS by stopping by the skill mentor already in game and changing his talent specialization.

This whole "changing roles is bad and shouldn't be allowed" argument is really wobbly because newsflash, it's already allowed.

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ShadowHvo
06.17.2013 , 11:27 PM | #1305
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
And...?
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
Not all commandos get those unless they pick that tree. Completely different.
If I pick vanguard, I get vanguard abilities and trooper, and skill tree abilities for whatever I put my points in.
You say that not all Commandos get abilities in their skill tree unless they pick one (Or two for that matter) specific skill tree? And then continue on to say that Vanguards have abilities in each skill tree.
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PeterTLJr
06.17.2013 , 11:31 PM | #1306
Quote: Originally Posted by ShadowHvo View Post
You say that not all Commandos get abilities in their skill tree unless they pick one (Or two for that matter) specific skill tree? And then continue on to say that Vanguards have abilities in each skill tree.
I was addressing your statements regarding commandos and skill tree abilities.

Then I want on to prove my statements using something else.

Skill trees give only a couple to few abilities that only benefit that tree.
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Nythain
06.17.2013 , 11:32 PM | #1307
Quote: Originally Posted by ShadowHvo View Post
You say that not all Commandos get abilities in their skill tree unless they pick one (Or two for that matter) specific skill tree? And then continue on to say that Vanguards have abilities in each skill tree.
He's saying each AC has abilities (some even shared with both ACs) obtainable by putting points into the talent tree... he's stated multiple times that the abilities are only obtained by putting the points into the tree, so it goes with or without saying that you get the abilities from whatever tree(s) you put the points into... So if he goes Vanguard, he would get Trooper Abilities, Vanguard Abilities, and any abilities gained from talent point distribution... not sure where you're going or how you interpreted it.

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ShadowHvo
06.17.2013 , 11:32 PM | #1308
Quote: Originally Posted by Nythain View Post
Still curious how/why a Juggernaut's ability to go from Tank to DPS by switching to Marauder is different than a Juggernaut's ability to go from Tank to DPS by stopping by the skill mentor already in game and changing his talent specialization.

This whole "changing roles is bad and shouldn't be allowed" argument is really wobbly because newsflash, it's already allowed.
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In truth? I wouldn't care much if we could change, hell.. I even have a Sniper which I would like to be an Operative. But I made my choice, and I will continue to live with it. Since I can't be arsed to remake her
Never said it shouldn't be allowed. People are changing roles all of the time. I'm just saying, that our Jugg tank is no longer useful if he roles a Mara instead.

If a Jugg tank went to DPS in his own free time, hell I wouldn't give a damm. But going from a Jugg Tank to a Mara makes sure that he won't be doing any Tanking, which makes him unuseable for the guild. If he then would change back to a Jugg Tank again? Well, after how MMO's is doing it, I'm pretty sure it would hurt his wallet to the point he couldn't be arsed to do it.
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ShadowHvo
06.17.2013 , 11:35 PM | #1309
Quote: Originally Posted by Nythain View Post
He's saying each AC has abilities (some even shared with both ACs) obtainable by putting points into the talent tree... he's stated multiple times that the abilities are only obtained by putting the points into the tree, so it goes with or without saying that you get the abilities from whatever tree(s) you put the points into... So if he goes Vanguard, he would get Trooper Abilities, Vanguard Abilities, and any abilities gained from talent point distribution... not sure where you're going or how you interpreted it.
We clearly read it differently.
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Khevar
06.17.2013 , 11:38 PM | #1310
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
There is nothing wrong with AC changes, its not class changes, so your right there is most likely nothing you can say to change that.

Its an mmo yes, you play with others, when you join a guild and raid with them, thats a mutual benefit, if you want to drop your role from that raid spot, they replace you, you lose your raiding spot, you are the affected one. The guild isnt going to collapse if you switch your AC.
Of course it's not going to collapse.

But you started off with this very broad statement:
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
AC switches do not affect anyone but the person switching.
This is a very narrow view of things and completely self-centered.