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PVE AoE Sniper: The Explosive Engineer [Video]

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PVE AoE Sniper: The Explosive Engineer [Video]

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Vaidinah
06.16.2013 , 02:31 AM | #171
I would put Ambush just below refreshing the 3 stacks of ER/BS stacks since I basically never use it if my stacks are going to drop. Ambush would then be above our basic auto-attack (Rifle Shot) and extra Snipes until the rest of our skills are off cooldown.
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paowee
06.16.2013 , 03:24 AM | #172
Quote: Originally Posted by Vaidinah View Post
I would put Ambush just below refreshing the 3 stacks of ER/BS stacks since I basically never use it if my stacks are going to drop. Ambush would then be above our basic auto-attack (Rifle Shot) and extra Snipes until the rest of our skills are off cooldown.
Agreed!

Updated the OP:
  1. Shatter Shot Flourish Shot
  2. Covered Escape Hightail It
  3. Series of Shots* Speed Shot
  4. Orbital Strike* XS Freighter Flyby
  5. Plasma Probe* Incendiary Grenade
  6. Interrogation Probe Shock Charge
  7. Explosive Probe Sabotage Charge
  8. Corrosive Dart Vital Shot
  9. Maintaining 3 stacks of Electrified Railgun Blazing Speed NEW!
  10. Ambush Aimed Shot NEW!
  11. Snipe* Charged Burst*
  12. Overload Shot Quick Shot when repositioning to maintain 3x Electrified Railgun Blazing Speed stacks

Asterisks (*) on certain abilities because their usage will vary a lot depending on the circumstances and player preference. These abilities also comprise a big part of your DPS and are important to keep up or keep on cooldown.
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paowee
06.16.2013 , 02:49 PM | #173
6/16/2103 Now that the NiM TFB (and SnV) is out, it would be nice to see how the Engineering spec fared over the course of the previous tier. This list includes the top Engineers / Saboteurs for the following large-sized bosses: (HM) Writhing Horror, Operator IX, Terror From Beyond, Titan 6, Thrasher and Golden Fury.

16-man
HM TFB
#1 Writhing Horror - 3378 DPS Rhuarc [Stark Raving Mad]
#3 Terror From Beyond - 2325 DPS Roovin [SuckaFish] (roll in place)
#5 Operator IX - 2303 DPS B'oarder [SuckaFish] (can not duplicate due to data core bug)

HM SnV
#1 Thrasher - 3230 DPS Fenrir [Severity Gaming]
#2 Titan 6 - 3166 DPS Fenrir [Severity Gaming]
#4 Titan 6 - 3125 DPS Rhuarc [Stark Raving Mad]

HM Others
#1 Golden Fury - 2788 DPS B'oarder [SuckaFish]


8-man
HM TFB
#1 Writhing Horror - 3814 DPS B'oarder [SuckaFish]
#11 Terror From Beyond - 2176 DPS Fenrir [Severity Gaming]

HM SnV

#1 Thrasher 3270 DPS Cècilia [Dark Vengeance]
#5 Titan 6 3095 DPS Amilar [Loom]

HM Others
#27 Golden Fury 2420 DPS Cyl'orm'nuruodo [Ace]
Quote:
Rhuarc - ||
Fenrir - |||
Amilar- |
Roovin - |
Cecilia - |
Cyl'orm'nuruodo - |
And the 2.0 Engineering King is..... FENRIR OF [SEVERITY GAMING]! Congrats!
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paowee
06.17.2013 , 01:07 PM | #174
Aerallos it will be hard to beat your Engi parse without lucky RNG. Took a closer look at it and

Code:
15:30:08.980	130s      Scatter Bombs	2068 kinetic	No	Operations Training Dummy
15:30:09.069	131s	Scatter Bombs	2108 kinetic	No	Operations Training Dummy
15:30:09.169	131s	Scatter Bombs	2101 kinetic	No	Operations Training Dummy
15:30:09.326	131s	Scatter Bombs	4159* kinetic	Yes	Operations Training Dummy
15:30:09.376	131s	Scatter Bombs	4150* kinetic	Yes	Operations Training Dummy
15:30:10.276	132s	Scatter Bombs	4187* kinetic	Yes	Operations Training Dummy
15:30:10.373	132s	Scatter Bombs	2065 kinetic	No	Operations Training Dummy
15:30:10.478	132s	Scatter Bombs	2074 kinetic	No	Operations Training Dummy
15:30:10.639	132s	Flyby                7876* elemental	Yes	Operations Training Dummy
15:30:10.640	132s	Scatter Bombs	2100 kinetic	No	Operations Training Dummy
15:30:10.695	132s	Scatter Bombs	4018* kinetic	Yes  Operations Training Dummy
4 Scatter Bombs and 1 Flyby crit with Power Surge/Boost buff. 22,320 damage in 2 seconds lol. Also this was using the double 2-pc PVP bonus. I thought they patched it out sometime ago does anyone know?
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namesaretough
06.17.2013 , 01:15 PM | #175
Quote: Originally Posted by paowee View Post
Also this was using the double 2-pc PVP bonus. I thought they patched it out sometime ago does anyone know?
yep, it's gone now.

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Vaidinah
06.17.2013 , 05:37 PM | #176
Quote: Originally Posted by paowee View Post
Aerallos it will be hard to beat your Engi parse without lucky RNG. Took a closer look at it and

Code:
15:30:08.980	130s      Scatter Bombs	2068 kinetic	No	Operations Training Dummy
15:30:09.069	131s	Scatter Bombs	2108 kinetic	No	Operations Training Dummy
15:30:09.169	131s	Scatter Bombs	2101 kinetic	No	Operations Training Dummy
15:30:09.326	131s	Scatter Bombs	4159* kinetic	Yes	Operations Training Dummy
15:30:09.376	131s	Scatter Bombs	4150* kinetic	Yes	Operations Training Dummy
15:30:10.276	132s	Scatter Bombs	4187* kinetic	Yes	Operations Training Dummy
15:30:10.373	132s	Scatter Bombs	2065 kinetic	No	Operations Training Dummy
15:30:10.478	132s	Scatter Bombs	2074 kinetic	No	Operations Training Dummy
15:30:10.639	132s	Flyby                7876* elemental	Yes	Operations Training Dummy
15:30:10.640	132s	Scatter Bombs	2100 kinetic	No	Operations Training Dummy
15:30:10.695	132s	Scatter Bombs	4018* kinetic	Yes  Operations Training Dummy
4 Scatter Bombs and 1 Flyby crit with Power Surge/Boost buff. 22,320 damage in 2 seconds lol. Also this was using the double 2-pc PVP bonus. I thought they patched it out sometime ago does anyone know?
Yeah, it was patched out as noted above. After they fixed the double stacking of 2 piece bonuses, I did another set of parses with just a 2 piece PvP bonus and got very similar results here with 3412 DPS. That is per the Harbinger's rules so the beginning is clipped as well, but it's only about 25 DPS below my previous best (3437 DPS) with the double stacking 2 piece bonuses. I would have lost more damage (I think around 50) from losing the 2nd 2 piece bonus, but I changed to 7/36/3 spec and that seems to give me about 20 extra DPS to make up for it.

These are definitely both lucky parses, but interestingly, the critical chance on my skills is only about 3-5% beyond my normal (I had 64 crit rating, which was around 24% chance) at most for almost all of them. The key difference in my highest DPS parses is actually in getting high critical rates on Flyby/Orbital. I had a 34.29% crit rate on Orbital for my 3437 parse and 30% on the 3412 one. It makes sense since Flyby/Orbital has the highest individual damage of any of our skills and does elemental damage on top of that so that it ignores armor. Now if only there was some way to will Flyby/Orbital to crit...
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paowee
06.17.2013 , 05:44 PM | #177
Quote: Originally Posted by Vaidinah View Post
Yeah, it was patched out as noted above. After they fixed the double stacking of 2 piece bonuses, I did another set of parses with just a 2 piece PvP bonus and got very similar results here with 3412 DPS. That is per the Harbinger's rules so the beginning is clipped as well, but it's only about 25 DPS below my previous best (3437 DPS) with the double stacking 2 piece bonuses. I would have lost more damage (I think around 50) from losing the 2nd 2 piece bonus, but I changed to 7/36/3 spec and that seems to give me about 20 extra DPS to make up for it.

These are definitely both lucky parses, but interestingly, the critical chance on my skills is only about 3-5% beyond my normal (I had 64 crit rating, which was around 24% chance) at most for almost all of them. The key difference in my highest DPS parses is actually in getting high critical rates on Flyby/Orbital. I had a 34.29% crit rate on Orbital for my 3437 parse and 30% on the 3412 one. It makes sense since Flyby/Orbital has the highest individual damage of any of our skills and does elemental damage on top of that so that it ignores armor. Now if only there was some way to will Flyby/Orbital to crit...
7/36/3 that is a great idea if you use Ambush / Aimed Shot. OP updated:
Quote:
Spec:
with Ambush [some reading here]
7/36/3 - Sniper
7/36/3 - Gunslinger

without Ambush
5/36/5 - Sniper
5/36/5 - Gunslinger
I still personally haven't gotten around to testing out Ambush / Aimed Shot but i see myself putting it back in my skill bar. It's a very high DPE ability compared to Snipe and i can definitely see myself using it more in the near future... Thanks!
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Vaidinah
06.18.2013 , 02:36 AM | #178
I just want to mention that in your spoiler, you have the specs listed as 7/36/2 instead of 7/36/3.
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paowee
06.18.2013 , 02:54 AM | #179
I have to say i should have spent more time testing out Ambush rotation. Your suggestion went pretty well Aerro not to mention it helped in energy management a lot. Ambush is looking like a good alternative to Snipe-RS spam filler.

7/36/3 - 3483 DPS

Quote: Originally Posted by Vaidinah View Post
I just want to mention that in your spoiler, you have the specs listed as 7/36/2 instead of 7/36/3.
Ah thanks aerro hehe.
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Vaidinah
06.18.2013 , 03:34 PM | #180
Quote: Originally Posted by paowee View Post
I have to say i should have spent more time testing out Ambush rotation. Your suggestion went pretty well Aerro not to mention it helped in energy management a lot. Ambush is looking like a good alternative to Snipe-RS spam filler.

7/36/3 - 3483 DPS

Ah thanks aerro hehe.
Nice job man! Now I really want to finish up the rest of my gear to see if I can beat that parse. Your crit percentages are so varied as you have a low crit of 15% on Orbital, but 40-50% on Explosive Probe, Snipe, Rifle Shot, and good ole Ambush.
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