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Will there ever be anything like arena?

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Will there ever be anything like arena?

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ObiJuanShenobi
06.16.2013 , 06:01 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
What is the point then? Just roll with the current WZ size and mechanics.



Blizzard has admitted they could never work it out, and regrets ever doing it. I'm pretty sure the devs at Bioware are smart enough to review Blizzards history with arena play and steer clear of it.

And this thread has nothing to do with PvE so stop taking shots at people just because they don't agree with you. Most savvy PvP players, that are not Arena junkies, will tell you to exit stage right with this thread topic. Arena play is bad PvP in MMOs as far as I am concerned. It destroys PvP and PvE balance in an MMO in the process.

If you crave arena style play.... PLAY games with Arena already in them. Stop demanding this game be distorted to meet your cravings IMO. If players would just take arena "as is" then fine, but we all know that is not how it goes... arena junkies start stinking up the game with their constant complaining and demanding nerfs/adjustments that is even more narrowly focused then general PvP complaining.
The fact that every post you make staunchly defends the game exactly the way it is like you are getting paid for it (some of us are smart to you) is why I can't take what you say seriously.

I'm not taking shots at people because they don't agree, I said this before and it's a poor argument on your part. I took shots at the ones that are telling me to leave and go play other games if I want arena. It's a bs response and an offensive brush off. My point in this thread is that I'm sure BW could find a way to make it work and that I support it.
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zzoorrzz
06.16.2013 , 06:03 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
What is the point then? Just roll with the current WZ size and mechanics.
I thought the point is obvious, isnt it. Current WZs have objectives other than fighting.

I think the actual reason why some people think these arena would be a good idea is the lack of devs attention to open pvp. Since people don't have that in some reasonable way, this might be a way to make up for it a little bit.

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Kelbun
06.16.2013 , 06:05 PM | #43
I would be down for arenas! 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, possible other combos. The one thing I would say is it should be for the same gear as all other PvP events. Same gear, alternate method of attaining it. I dont want to see it turn into "I can get better gear through arenas them pawn in BGs!" SUre different appearance's for arena gear wouldnt be bad, just same stats for same level gear.

Also, there should be Companion arenas, just for HAHAs. A friend And I would challenge eachother, but just sick our companions on eachother to see who would win. Hysterical! Make the companions compete for companion gear!

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Andryah
06.16.2013 , 06:08 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by ObiJuanShenobi View Post
The fact that every post you make staunchly defends the game exactly the way it is like you are getting paid for it (those of us who are smart to you know that you are) is why I can't take what you say seriously.
An old, tired, waste of time meme on your part. Also, an inaccurate exaggeration and attempt to dismiss my comments through ad hominem. It's also taking an unnecessary shot at me because you disagree with my assessment of the topic.

Quote: Originally Posted by ObiJuanShenobi View Post
I'm not taking shots at people because they don't agree, I said this before and it's a poor argument on your part. I took shots at the ones that are telling me to leave and go play other games if I want arena. It's a bs response and an offensive brush off. My point in this thread is that I'm sure BW could find a way to make it work and that I support it.
O really?

Let's just requote your first round of shots taken at people for disagreeing with you:

Quote: Originally Posted by ObiJuanShenobi View Post
Judging by the responses it's obvious to see who the PVE players are. might as well admit it, you'd rather PVP went away all together.


PVP players like me want it, I'm sure BW can figure out a better way to implement it than WoW did. Perhaps that's already being looked into. Arena is fun, and I shouldn't have to be told to go back to WoW if it's what I want.

This community, I swear...
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Kelbun
06.16.2013 , 06:09 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by ObiJuanShenobi View Post
The fact that every post you make staunchly defends the game exactly the way it is like you are getting paid for it (some of us are smart to you) is why I can't take what you say seriously.

I'm not taking shots at people because they don't agree, I said this before and it's a poor argument on your part. I took shots at the ones that are telling me to leave and go play other games if I want arena. It's a bs response and an offensive brush off. My point in this thread is that I'm sure BW could find a way to make it work and that I support it.
Or better yet: If you don't want to play in arenas, don't qeue for them. Don't not make arenas for those who want to play, because others don't want them to.

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ObiJuanShenobi
06.16.2013 , 06:11 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
An old, tired, waste of time meme on your part. Also, an inaccurate exaggeration and attempt to dismiss my comments. It's also taking an unnecessary shot at me because you disagree with my assessment of the topic.



O really?

Let's just requote your first round of shots taken at people for disagreeing with you:
Pay attention Andryah. I made it abundantly clear after that post that I was referring to the ones saying "go back to wow" and "play another game", not the ones of different opinions. Read the thread first, then comment. Thanks.
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Trollokdamus
06.16.2013 , 06:13 PM | #47
I'd like to see Arena style PvP in this game.

Overall, Arenas proved to be a successful project in WoW and loads of people enjoy them. And since ToR is 70-80% WoW clone in terms of game mechanics, i don't see why BW shouldn't adopt successful ideas from the latter.

Yeah, this will require BW to work on class balance alot and constantly make small changes here and there, but hey, this is the nature of any MMO. Nothing is static, everything is a subject to change and eventually changes in one way or another.

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Andryah
06.16.2013 , 06:13 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Kelbun View Post
I would be down for arenas! 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, possible other combos. The one thing I would say is it should be for the same gear as all other PvP events.
It should be no gear at all to be honest. If they put arena play in, you play your class "as is" (ie: there will be no consideration of adjusting classes based on arena play, so suck it up) AND you enter arenas and your gear is replaced with generic arena gear for your class PERIOD. If arena is about skill player on player... gear should not be a factor at all, nor should class adjustments to arena QQs.

Problem is... it has been proven over in WoW that it won't work.. the arena players will QQ class balance into the ground to get their arena fix. Players quickly figure out what the "right" classes to play/pair are and the other classes are made obsolete.
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Andryah
06.16.2013 , 06:17 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by ObiJuanShenobi View Post
Pay attention Andryah. I made it abundantly clear after that post that I was referring to the ones saying "go back to wow" and "play another game", not the ones of different opinions. Read the thread first, then comment. Thanks.
I've followed the thread from the beginning pal.

A shot at other forum members is a shot at other forum members. You don't get to pretend you are not taking shots at other members by qualifying it on some faux-pretense to pounce that you pull out of thin air.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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HiltoftheDragon
06.16.2013 , 06:18 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Trollokdamus View Post
I'd like to see Arena style PvP in this game.

Overall, Arenas proved to be a successful project in WoW and loads of people enjoy them. And since ToR is 70-80% WoW clone in terms of game mechanics, i don't see why BW shouldn't adopt successful ideas from the latter.

Yeah, this will require BW to work on class balance alot and constantly make small changes here and there, but hey, this is the nature of any MMO. Nothing is static, everything is a subject to change and eventually changes in one way or another.
The nature to all mmos is to tweak and manage gear and specs to the evolving population over time in small increments...... not to throw huge buffs and nerfs around on a constant basis like arena fighting would bring. It would be like all of us kittens watching a tennis match on tv. It would be a bad mistake.
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