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Will there ever be anything like arena?

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Will there ever be anything like arena?

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ObiJuanShenobi
06.16.2013 , 05:36 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by astrobearx View Post
since you havent played wow, i will ignore your post to blissful ignorances.

arena in wow make class balance like hell. most classes WILL GET NERF because will their be a pair of classes that will be unbeatable in 2v2 or 4v4 in pvp.

for example

juggernaut + sorc = unkillable

then BW would have to nerf these two classes to solve that issue and then swtor will repeat the wow class balance hell which will never end.
You are assuming that WoWs arena system is the only system there can be.
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HiltoftheDragon
06.16.2013 , 05:39 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by ObiJuanShenobi View Post
You are assuming that WoWs arena system is the only system there can be.
I want to hear this different idea you have. Theres not much that goes into throwing players inside a closed area and letting them fight it out to the death. What other way is there to implement arena style pvp?
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zzoorrzz
06.16.2013 , 05:39 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by HiltoftheDragon View Post
Because WoW is the biggest example to date.
I think there is quite easy way to avoid any need of rebalancing. Why not make 2 brackets. First random arenas where people could queue only solo, so the unbeatable combinations wouldn't be a problem. And the second would be premades against premades and there would be no problem too, they would just let unbeatable class combinations play against each other there. Or did I miss something?

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Hizoka
06.16.2013 , 05:43 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by zzoorrzz View Post
Well it doesn't have to be 3 vs 3. I didn't even say that. Why not make it 8 vs 8 first and see what happens.
8v8 is what a warzone is... just queue up and you get that.

sorry but if you did not play wow with arenas as the main PvP thing then you had no leg to stand on. Most of us saw it cripple the game because of the minority of people whining on the fourms.

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ObiJuanShenobi
06.16.2013 , 05:44 PM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by HiltoftheDragon View Post
I want to hear this different idea you have. Theres not much that goes into throwing players inside a closed area and letting them fight it out to the death. What other way is there to implement arena style pvp?
For starters I wouldn't go less than 5v5. The more players there are, the more like a regular WZ it is without the need for more class balancing.

As for other ideas...I'm not BW I'm not a genius, but that's why devs get the big money. They get paid to invent new ways to do things. My theme in this thread is I'm sure they could figure something out, not that I could.
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ObiJuanShenobi
06.16.2013 , 05:45 PM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by zzoorrzz View Post
I think there is quite easy way to avoid any need of rebalancing. Why not make 2 brackets. First random arenas where people could queue only solo, so the unbeatable combinations wouldn't be a problem. And the second would be premades against premades and there would be no problem too, they would just let unbeatable class combinations play against each other there. Or did I miss something?
Alas, a system that could work.
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Andryah
06.16.2013 , 05:51 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by ObiJuanShenobi View Post
For starters I wouldn't go less than 5v5. The more players there are, the more like a regular WZ it is without the need for more class balancing.
What is the point then? Just roll with the current WZ size and mechanics.

Quote: Originally Posted by ObiJuanShenobi View Post
As for other ideas...I'm not BW I'm not a genius, but that's why devs get the big money. They get paid to invent new ways to do things. My theme in this thread is I'm sure they could figure something out, not that I could.
Blizzard has admitted they could never work it out, and regrets ever doing it. I'm pretty sure the devs at Bioware are smart enough to review Blizzards history with arena play and steer clear of it.

And this thread has nothing to do with PvE so stop taking shots at people just because they don't agree with you. Most savvy PvP players, that are not Arena junkies, will tell you to exit stage right with this thread topic. Arena play is bad PvP in MMOs as far as I am concerned. It destroys PvP and PvE balance in an MMO in the process.

If you crave arena style play.... PLAY games with Arena already in them. Stop demanding this game be distorted to meet your cravings IMO. If players would just take arena "as is" then fine, but we all know that is not how it goes... arena junkies start stinking up the game with their constant complaining and demanding nerfs/adjustments that is even more narrowly focused then general PvP complaining.
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brutall
06.16.2013 , 05:54 PM | #38
i can say that wow arena was the most pvp fun i ever had inn any game. and i realy hope we get it here. and no i wont go back to wow. got burned out on that game loooong time ago.. i like swtor alot but the pvp part of this game is lacking alot. if we cant have world pvp geif arena!!

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Hizoka
06.16.2013 , 05:55 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by brutall View Post
i can say that wow arena was the most pvp fun i ever had inn any game. and i realy hope we get it here. and no i wont go back to wow. got burned out on that game loooong time ago.. i like swtor alot but the pvp part of this game is lacking alot. if we cant have world pvp geif arena!!
if you want the PvP of wow, then go play it... this is SWTOR wanting them to turn SWTOR into wow is not a good idea.

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Grayseven
06.16.2013 , 05:58 PM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by zzoorrzz View Post
I think there is quite easy way to avoid any need of rebalancing. Why not make 2 brackets. First random arenas where people could queue only solo, so the unbeatable combinations wouldn't be a problem. And the second would be premades against premades and there would be no problem too, they would just let unbeatable class combinations play against each other there. Or did I miss something?
Because people who couldn't play in pre-mades with their class because they aren't part of one of the unbeatable combo's would demand that changes be made to allow them to join the pre-made battles. Also, the solo queues would also be dominated by the dominant class(es) and the outcry for "more balance" would start the ball rolling as well.
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