Advance Class Change: Good or Bad idea?

I have agreed many times that the playstyles are different yes, but that doesnt change the root class. And thats where some of us differ, your seeing it as a root class change by comparing 2 different classes in WoW, where as the other some of us see it as an AC change, meaning if i changed my vanguard to a commando or vice versa, that its still the trooper and thats what honestly matters is as long as whatever im changing in the commando or vanguard, as long as it stays within the TROOPER, there shouldnt be an issue because theres so many things that remain the same, and very few that change, much like in other games.

BTW, I like your quote in your signature

I have agreed many times that the playstyles are different yes, but that doesnt change the root class. And thats where some of us differ, your seeing it as a root class change by comparing 2 different classes in WoW, where as the other some of us see it as an AC change, meaning if i changed my vanguard to a commando or vice versa, that its still the trooper and thats what honestly matters is as long as whatever im changing in the commando or vanguard, as long as it stays within the TROOPER, there shouldnt be an issue because theres so many things that remain the same, and very few that change, much like in other games.

BTW, I like your quote in your signature

I sort of gave up on this issue, I AM FOR AC changes... In all the post I have read, I still do not see anything valid as to why it should not be allowed. Its not like you get something for free, you may get into a different AC, but you lose one too... its just a trade of AC. Also, this will give TOR and edge over other games that do not have or allow class changes. TOR used a system, that you would think, was designed from the ground up to allow for.

Honestly, the entire argument has become exhausting, to try and convince people that do not like it, that it will NOT affect them, is pointless, they just come on and say its P2W, or no other game allows it, or just NO....
In reality, no one has any good claim as to why not, other that they think it will ruin their game. what ruins a game for many WORKING people is making another alt when you already have 12 (in my case) when what many of us want, is to enjoy end game. We also have to pay a price for new gear and mods.... not YOU, but us wanting it. But this hurts you? LOL... ok, make me laugh more.

There is no big deal, they will come on and cry it can't happen.... Time to ignore them and push this one and soon it will be in the game, if a few quit, let them.... Many of the same people defend all things BW has done originally and if left to them, the game would not be where it is now and improving.

I wont bother coming back and saying much more, I think its coming as BW already stated it would.... Good luck OP with this fight, you have your hands full trying to convince them they have no valid argument.

It's a class change. Even your most staunch supporter on this thread recognizes that.



That sounds a lot to me like that poster realizes that TOR falls into the category of games that do not allow class changes, along with other games such as WOW, GW2, etc.

I think you misread that.

no i think you want to grab to any glimmer of hope you can.

Back in beta they said they would NEVER allow AC changes, that is why they put so many warning you must click though before you pick one.

I agree with you. Your class being a permanent choice is why they put so many warnings and make every player click multiple confirmations before the final decision is made.

To be fair, though, the devs have since said that AC changes will "likely happen" and the OP is correct about that statement from the devs. Where the OP fails regarding that statement, is in his interpretation of that statement. He feels that the devs were saying that AC's are not different classes, and in fact they did not. They only said that AC's would "likely happen". This does not mean that the devs think AC's are not different classes. It also does not mean that class changes WILL happen.

I believe that the devs still do not intend to allow class changes, otherwise we would have heard something further, even if only in hints, and there has been nothing further from the devs on this subject. I think the dev's statement was actually a "soft no". I think the devs know and understand that allowing class changes will cost them subscriptions as some players will leave this game if class changes are allowed. Those desiring class changes are either still playing and will probably continue to do so, or they have already left the game. Not allowing class changes will cost them little in their current revenue scheme, but allowing class changes will cost them some of their ongoing revenue. By phrasing it in the manner in which they did, they can appease those who want to change class by allowing them to think that feature is coming, meaning those players will probably continue to play and BW risks little loss of revenue from those players leaving the game. By not stating that class changes WILL happen, they leave themselves able to hold to their vision of not allowing class changes, thus keeping the revenue from those against class changes.

If there is reason to believe that this game will take a downfall if they add in a feature like this then I dont agree with it, but we cant just rule it out because a a few people dont like it.

There are two ACTIVE threads at this time, and countless older inactive threads, FULL of reasons why this game will be worse if they allow class changes, but you refuse to acknowledge those reasons. Instead you want to stick your fingers in your ears going "NAHNAHNAHNAHNAH. I can't hear you."

If there is reason to believe that this game will take a downfall if they add in a feature like this then I dont agree with it, but we cant just rule it out because a a few people dont like it.

After how many times you have used that, I think your the one that does that. Get new material.