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Advance Class Change: Good or Bad idea?
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Hizoka
06.13.2013 , 10:29 AM | #141
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
I understand that, im talking hypothetically, since it sounds to me that your basing classes off its skill trees, if retribution had 3 skill trees would you be against switching to holy or prot? probably not because its still the paladin, same concept here.
no its not... Dude you are clueless... Switching from a Holy paladin to a retribution paladin is like a Mercenary going from Body guard to Pyrotech. What you want is the same as a paladin going to a warrior.

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chimex
06.13.2013 , 10:30 AM | #142
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
You get very few new abilities, you just get a new skill tree in which to put points into. Its not a "completely different" class.
Well by the logic of advance classes sharing a few abilities, you're pretty much saying ALL classes in every MMO is a "spec" as they all have the basic "hit" ability
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PeterTLJr
06.13.2013 , 10:35 AM | #143
Quote: Originally Posted by chimex View Post
Well by the logic of advance classes sharing a few abilities, you're pretty much saying ALL classes in every MMO is a "spec" as they all have the basic "hit" ability
no theres abilities that only TROOPERS get, regardless if they pick vanguard or commando, that no other base class can get. your twisting up what im saying, all troopers, doesnt matter vanguard or commando, there still troopers, how is that any different then classes being treated in any other game?
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Themanthatisi
06.13.2013 , 10:40 AM | #144
Why are we comparing TOR to WoW anyway? Different games and the rule of one should not affect the other.... WoW may be the bad boy at one time, but so was the Model T. Competition, fueled ideas, ideas turned into production, and thus, things changed and improved. Yes, CHANGE.... is i such a very scary word, right?

Why does a MMO all have to be the same? TOR gave us stories with voice acting, was that bad? Did the sky fall because BW did something not in a AAA MMO before?

So, will the MMO gods strike down BW if they enacted AC changes? If so tell me, so I can hide under my desk.....
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06.13.2013 , 10:40 AM | #145
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
no theres abilities that only TROOPERS get, regardless if they pick vanguard or commando, that no other base class can get. your twisting up what im saying, all troopers, doesnt matter vanguard or commando, there still troopers, how is that any different then classes being treated in any other game?
There are abilities that only Vanguards get , no matter what spec, ALL vanguards get that ability. Commondo's do NOT get those abilities. How is that different than classes being treated in any other game?
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PeterTLJr
06.13.2013 , 10:46 AM | #146
Quote: Originally Posted by AsheraII View Post
There are abilities that only Vanguards get , no matter what spec, ALL vanguards get that ability. Commondo's do NOT get those abilities. How is that different than classes being treated in any other game?
Because they are both still troopers, theres certain abilities retribution paladins get for being ret that other paladins dont get.
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PeterTLJr
06.13.2013 , 10:47 AM | #147
Quote: Originally Posted by Themanthatisi View Post
Why are we comparing TOR to WoW anyway? Different games and the rule of one should not affect the other.... WoW may be the bad boy at one time, but so was the Model T. Competition, fueled ideas, ideas turned into production, and thus, things changed and improved. Yes, CHANGE.... is i such a very scary word, right?

Why does a MMO all have to be the same? TOR gave us stories with voice acting, was that bad? Did the sky fall because BW did something not in a AAA MMO before?

So, will the MMO gods strike down BW if they enacted AC changes? If so tell me, so I can hide under my desk.....
Very true, I was just using it as example but i'll stick with just using TOR
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Hizoka
06.13.2013 , 10:48 AM | #148
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
Because they are both still troopers, theres certain abilities retribution paladins get for being ret that other paladins dont get.
Ret is a spec not a class. There are only things an Advanced Prototype Powertech get. You are comparing a spec in wow to a class in tor. You are wrong, please tell us intelligent people what it will take for you to understand that.

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chimex
06.13.2013 , 10:49 AM | #149
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
no theres abilities that only TROOPERS get, regardless if they pick vanguard or commando, that no other base class can get. your twisting up what im saying, all troopers, doesnt matter vanguard or commando, there still troopers, how is that any different then classes being treated in any other game?
Firstly, I am not twisting anything. Your argument is based on shared abilities. I might also point out that all classes have a shared ability of a stun breaker, and a out of combat self rejuvenation. Speeder skills are a shared ability across the table. Just because some abilities are a little more exclusive, it does not mean the classes that share them are specs.

As for your question, because the trooper is NOT the class. The Vanguard is a class, and so is the Commando. You know this is the case. It has been explained very clearly to you multiple times on two different threads.
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PeterTLJr
06.13.2013 , 10:50 AM | #150
Quote: Originally Posted by Hizoka View Post
Ret is a spec not a class. There are only things an Advanced Prototype Powertech get. You are comparing a spec in wow to a class in tor. You are wrong, please tell us intelligent people what it will take for you to understand that.
What makes you think your the intelligent one in this argument? If BW allows AC changing, does that mean your not intelligent anymore?
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