Level 54 gear

"Don't you know who I *AM*?!?!"

You're the little man that writes in bold, angry red letters. Was there something else? lol.

This is a PVP forum, but w/e I'll bite. I can follow your logic to an extent, but the bottom line is this is a game, PVP and PVE are different animals. The joy in PVP is the act of player vs player (for the most part), I would argue sure the gear grind is appealing but not the sole reason for PVP. There are more prevalent ways to ascertain who's better regarding PVP such as: high RWZ ratings and valor ranks, bragging rights, unique mounts, crystals etc. Most players in the PVP community know who's good and who isn't regardless of which 65 mods they use. PVE is player vs. environment, scripted fights with concrete strats etc. The joy (for most) is more centered around a sense of accomplishment, world 1st boss kills, server 1st kills, exclusive titles, and obviously gear. Not to mention the increasing level of difficulty as you progress.

It seems to me, if you bolster a NiM encounter to allow a new guild to be able to circumvent the gear grind that would sort of take the joy out of the PVE or at-least some of it. Bottom line here is, there are MAYBE 6 pieces of 54 crafted gear which are BIS out of what 11 or so? I honestly don't believe the crafted chest is BIS but w/e. You still need 5 or 6 conq pieces for BIS overall. It's not like that gear is obsolete. All the 54's do is shorten the time it takes to grind BIS, by half I'd say. I mean, what's next? People complaining that because they can't afford to augment their gear that it should be banned as well?

Why shouldn't someone with full pvp end game gear be able to run the hardest ops if someone with level 54 gear which is not even end game gear be able to compete in rateds warzones with better bolster than full conq? You want what's best for you because you don't want to grind pvp gear to compete. I don't want to grind pve gear to be able to run ops but I have too. So why shouldn't it be the same.

I agree they could have been more clear in their meaning, but I'll theorize that since Kell Dragon (55 PvE) Armor is being introduced for Nightmare Mode Ops drops, that makes it the new highest tier in the game. As a result, to be competitive in War Zones, all the other tiers of armor will have to be raised to be at least on par or, hopefully in the case of PvP armor, superior.

Why shouldn't someone with full pvp end game gear be able to run the hardest ops if someone with level 54 gear which is not even end game gear be able to compete in rateds warzones with better bolster than full conq? You want what's best for you because you don't want to grind pvp gear to compete. I don't want to grind pve gear to be able to run ops but I have too. So why shouldn't it be the same.

PvP is all about testing your skills against other players

PvE is all about smashing a raid dummy for loot

What would be the point if no one had to gear themselves? No one would play anymore. IMO PvPers should not want or need a carrot on a stick to want to PvP in competitive games. So the lower barrier to entry the better.

I thought they said previously that as the PVE gear was introduced that was higher than Partisan, they would start lowering the bolster; lowering the expertise on those items to specifically counter the higher stats. Instead all the PVE gear is getting buffed up to it? I thought that of the PVP gear, only the MH weapon was bolstered up to 72. Is all our PVP gear getting bolstered now or did PVE gear just get a big boost over PVP gear with the new tier? I'm getting so confused by all this stupidity. The only thing that seems to be consistent though is I'm wasting my time trying to get PVP gear.

I can't help getting the feeling that with this bolster, they've dug themselves a huge hole they can't climb out of, and there's some stupid Pointy Haired Manager handing them shovels to keep on digging.

..... regarding the overall fairness between PVP gear and PVE gear grind ..... the overall purpose of the two aspects of this game are very different, as far as player enjoyment.

So what you're saying is that PVE players are entitled to gear upgrades every few months to tackle the new and interesting encounters released for them, but PVPers have to go through some major grind, just to ultimately get an outdated set of gear? Oh right, PVPers should live for the joy of PVP and artificial stats. At some point the gear will be totally useless in PVE, all the while PVE gear is getting better in PVP. You might want to go look up the meaning of "fairness" as I think your grip on it is rather tenuous.

PVP progression has always been about titles and gear and some kind of bling like weapons or mounts. And anything that didn't have much of those was built around no holds barred open world PVP where you could stake out your own territory. But now, apparently not. The joy of religiously balanced PVP itself is all we need.... no carrots or badges or acknowledgments of any kind required.

We obviously don't need valor either, you'd better get rid of that lest some poor little PVEer gets offended. It also explains why there are no new warzones... would obviously be unfair to the PVEers if they had to learn yet another battleground, what with all that new armor they have to collect and dye from their new encounters.