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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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PeterTLJr
06.11.2013 , 04:41 PM | #881
I guess what I dont understand is, it would be a completely optional service, why are people so heavily against it? it wouldnt affect them...

just to clarify, just for AC switching, not actual CLASS switching.
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Ratajack
06.11.2013 , 04:50 PM | #882
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
its not about the grind though, its about the hard work we have put into the character that would pretty much be washed away since we'd be making a new character of the SAME class just the other AC.
No. You'd be making a character of a DIFFERENT class.

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Ratajack
06.11.2013 , 04:53 PM | #883
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
I guess what I dont understand is, it would be a completely optional service, why are people so heavily against it? it wouldnt affect them...

just to clarify, just for AC switching, not actual CLASS switching.
This thread is full of well thought out, logically and rationally presented reasons why allowing class changes WOULD affect every player and not just the ones that choose to change their class. Are you going to just dismiss them because they do not mesh with what you want?

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PeterTLJr
06.11.2013 , 05:02 PM | #884
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
No. You'd be making a character of a DIFFERENT class.
no im pretty sure if i wanted to switch to a commando after playing a vanguard, id still have to do all the same stuff that my vanguard did.
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PeterTLJr
06.11.2013 , 05:04 PM | #885
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
This thread is full of well thought out, logically and rationally presented reasons why allowing class changes WOULD affect every player and not just the ones that choose to change their class. Are you going to just dismiss them because they do not mesh with what you want?
and there has been a bunch of reasons why it wouldnt affect other players, why do you keep dismissing that?
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Beaunidle
06.11.2013 , 05:06 PM | #886
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
I guess what I dont understand is, it would be a completely optional service, why are people so heavily against it? it wouldnt affect them...

just to clarify, just for AC switching, not actual CLASS switching.
Sorry, I disagree, (I'll use Imperial classes to illustrate, but their Republic mirrors are the same) my Bounty Hunter Mercenary is largely different from my Bounty Hunter Powertech, their gameplay is poles apart, Operative vastly different from Sniper, Assassin bears absolutely no resemblance to Sorcerer, it's really only the Warrior advanced classes that are fairly similar in that they're both melee range, but again they're pretty dissimilar and to cap it off one is Heavy and one Medium armoured so not at all the same.

On each faction there are effectively 8 different classes which simply share 4 parent class storylines, trying to make out there are only 4 actual classes per faction is quite absurd. Choice of Advanced class is very clearly permanent just going off the text on the quest even if you ignore the gross gameplay differences.

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Ratajack
06.11.2013 , 05:09 PM | #887
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
no im pretty sure if i wanted to switch to a commando after playing a vanguard, id still have to do all the same stuff that my vanguard did.
The story would be the same, but the CLASS would be different.

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Ratajack
06.11.2013 , 05:19 PM | #888
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
and there has been a bunch of reasons why it wouldnt affect other players, why do you keep dismissing that?
I do not dismiss the well thought out and reasonably presented arguments, even if I do not agree with them.

It seems to me, though, that most of the reasons why it wouldn't affect others boil down to "that happens already" completely ignoring the fact that allowing AC changes would drastically increase the frequency and scope of these "already occurring" situations. Increasing a negative is a negative.

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PeterTLJr
06.11.2013 , 05:21 PM | #889
Quote: Originally Posted by Beaunidle View Post
Sorry, I disagree, (I'll use Imperial classes to illustrate, but their Republic mirrors are the same) my Bounty Hunter Mercenary is largely different from my Bounty Hunter Powertech, their gameplay is poles apart, Operative vastly different from Sniper, Assassin bears absolutely no resemblance to Sorcerer, it's really only the Warrior advanced classes that are fairly similar in that they're both melee range, but again they're pretty dissimilar and to cap it off one is Heavy and one Medium armoured so not at all the same.

On each faction there are effectively 8 different classes which simply share 4 parent class storylines, trying to make out there are only 4 actual classes per faction is quite absurd. Choice of Advanced class is very clearly permanent just going off the text on the quest even if you ignore the gross gameplay differences.
ok fine, lets say your right, does that mean Retribution, Holy, and Protection (paladin), are all separate classes then in wow? I mean, there play style is completely different, so that means there not all the same class?
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Lugosi
06.11.2013 , 05:23 PM | #890
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
no im pretty sure if i wanted to switch to a commando after playing a vanguard, id still have to do all the same stuff that my vanguard did.
I'm pretty sure...no...I'm absolutely sure that you would be playing a different class even though you are doing the same stuff.

Advanced Classes ARE different classes, period, end of story, get over it. The only reason there is only 4 stories is because BW didn't want to hire 8 more voice actors and write 8 more sets of dialogue.

By your logic, If I did the same heroic on my Operative as I did my Sorc I should be able to swap their classes.

What defines a class is their abilities and the role they play in the party.

IMO, AC respecs should never be allowed.
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