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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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branmakmuffin
06.11.2013 , 03:34 PM | #851
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
The devs have said they are different classes, or did you miss the multiple times the devs own statement was quoted. A statement and position, I might add, that the devs have remained steadfast about and from which they have never wavered since they made the determination that the AC's were different classes during BETA.
They are clearly not totally different classes, because they share the same set of base class skills.

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PeterTLJr
06.11.2013 , 03:35 PM | #852
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
They are clearly not totally different classes, because they share the same set of base class skills.
nailed it
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branmakmuffin
06.11.2013 , 03:37 PM | #853
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
nailed it
I won't take credit for "nailing it." I think others have mentioned it before. Maybe even you yourself mentioned it.

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tiennen
06.11.2013 , 03:37 PM | #854
You guys are still arguing about this? Its be like.....weeks.

I still have no idea how having the ability to change your AC would affect ANYONE else's gameplay negatively.

It won't. It will only affect you negatively if you have a massive pineapple stuck up somewhere where the sun don't shine. There is no one forcing you to change your AC. And if someone changed their AC, unless they told you you wouldn't know either.
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Ratajack
06.11.2013 , 03:39 PM | #855
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
unless im wrong, which i might be, but isnt the beginning of the thread showing a dev saying that there has been talks about advance class switching and will most likely happen?
You are correct and there was s statement that AC changing would "likely happen" at some undetermined point in the future although there has not been a peep from the devs about this since. That statement, however, did NOT contradict in any way their statement that AC's are different classes. They have remained steadfast about AC's being different classes.

We have yet to hear anything further about AC changes coming, so that statement about AC changing "likely" happening may have been an honest statement that they plan to implement it, although I would have expected to hear something further about it, especially given the number of threads for people asking to change class.

It may also have been a "soft no" regarding AC changes. They may have made that statement in order to appease those wishing to change class by making it appear that AC changes are coming, while at the same time keeping to their earlier stance of not allowing AC changes.

Which is the correct meaning of that statement? Only the devs know.

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branmakmuffin
06.11.2013 , 03:39 PM | #856
Quote: Originally Posted by tiennen View Post
You guys are still arguing about this?
I paid my 5 pounds.

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It won't. It will only affect you negatively if you have a massive pineapple stuck up somewhere where the sun don't shine. There is no one forcing you to change your AC. And if someone changed their AC, unless they told you you wouldn't know either.
Good one.

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tiennen
06.11.2013 , 03:41 PM | #857
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
You asked. I'll answer, although I know that you will dismiss it out of hand because it does not mesh with your views.

Hypothetically, I play a marauder. I get grouped with a juggernaut tank. If a medium armor strength piece drops, by social convention, it should default to me. If they allow class changes, now I have to compete with that juggernaut who claims it is for his character because he may change class or is planning to change class and needs to build his gear set. Is that enough of an affect for you?

And, yes, shame on me for not catching and correcting your grammatical error.
The only time this would matter would be if the armor piece had no modification slots.

And as far as i know, there are VERY few items that drop in Operations/Flashpoints that don't have modification slots that are actually upgrades for anyone.

In other words, that marauder is just as likely to be competeing with the Juggernaut CURRENTLY as they would be in the future when AC changes are implemented, because it is not about the armor TYPE, but about the stats on that piece of armor's mods. There are plenty of armor _shells_ out there.
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Ratajack
06.11.2013 , 03:43 PM | #858
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
armor doesnt decide a class. why is armor even a factor the only time armor will affect anybody is for the warrior/knight class, and theres an easy solution, if a medium piece drops and your on your heavy armor guy, you cant hit need, and if your on your medium armor guy, cant need on heavy
Obviously you have not seen the massive threads regarding loot rules and "social convention" If a marauder rolled on juggernaut gear or a juggernaut rolled on marauder gear, there would be such loud cries of "ninja" you would be able to hear them from miles away. The same would apply if the commando rolled on that tanking chest piece with aim over the vanguard tank, or any of the other classes, since the different classes may use the same primary stat, but they do not use the same secondary stats.

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Ratajack
06.11.2013 , 03:47 PM | #859
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
your ABSOLUTELY right, the devs have said that in the past but that doesnt mean it can be changed now.
The fact that it can be changed now doesn't mean that it SHOULD be changed. The very fact that they have NOT changed it, nor have they given any indication that will change their stance that AC's a different classes says volumes. You'd think 80+ pages would have had a yellow post somewhere if their stance that AC's were different classes had been changed or if they actually intended to offer class changes.

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Ratajack
06.11.2013 , 03:49 PM | #860
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
They are clearly not totally different classes, because they share the same set of base class skills.
Can a shadow heal? Can a sage stealth?

Can a commando taunt? Can a vanguard heal?


A shared set of skills, most of which are not even used by both classes does not in any way make them the same class.