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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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branmakmuffin
06.10.2013 , 10:18 AM | #671
Quote: Originally Posted by Hizoka View Post
dude you lack the ability to understand that you are wrong. The advanced class is you class for the game. that is what the devs have said and guess what they devs will always be right.
Which means if they change the game to allow AC change, that will be right, because the devs are always right.

Quote: Originally Posted by Xeperi View Post
This is why way at the beginning of this I said we could argue the origins, history, and evolution of "Game/gaming" or we could just agree that there must be some element of competition in order for something to be considered a "game". You responded by ignoring that point (which really is trolling) and berating me. You still ignore the point.

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So we can see there are both competition and non-competition related uses of the word.
Therefore "game" does not necessarily include the concept of "competition." You should perhaps look up the word "inherent" at this point. You should also look up "self-contradictory."

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we could just agree that there must be some element of competition in order for something to be considered a "game"
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So we can see there are both competition and non-competition related uses of the word [game]

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Icebergy
06.10.2013 , 10:30 AM | #672
Quote: Originally Posted by Anzel View Post
If the server transfers are 1800 Cartel Coins my guess is that AC swaps will be like 600-1,000 Cartel Coins. Just a guess though.
They would have to be closer to 6,000-10,000 for it to be acceptable.
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branmakmuffin
06.10.2013 , 10:33 AM | #673
Quote: Originally Posted by Icebergy View Post
They would have to be closer to 6,000-10,000 for it to be acceptable.
That's just your passive-aggressive way of saying "Don't allow it at all."

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Icebergy
06.10.2013 , 10:34 AM | #674
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
That's just your passive-aggressive way of saying "Don't allow it at all."
Exactly.
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chimex
06.10.2013 , 10:36 AM | #675
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
There will always be pros and cons to every feature that is suggested, they shouldn't rule this out just because of loot, its a simple fix, if you are a guardian and your doing a FP, you shouldnt be allowed to hit need on a medium piece. As far as operations go, that is out of EA/BWs control, the raid leader decides how loot is decided.
Well yes, you are right on that point. No matter what the situation, there will always be pro's and con's. That said, this does not excuse every idea put on the table. If an idea will throw up more issues than it will solve, methinks the idea should be reconsidered.

You hit upon a point rather well actually (unfortunately, I don't intend to use it to support your argument). Designs to resolve the problems AC changes would bring. The point is that weather or not people want AC changes (limitless or otherwise) the game in its current state just simply is not ready for that level of implementation.

That being, there are no stops for people to roll on gear because they can AC swap (not to mention, as you say, OPS loot distribution!), there is no buffer to cull the time and cost of changing your entire gearset (Guardian to Sentinel for example), to name but a few of the already mentioned issues AC swapping could bring. Maybe someday this game will be in a better position to implement AC swapping, but that day is far down the line. (Tbh, I don't know about that, I left my magic 8-ball in my other jacket)

Secondly, you say that stops could be implemented to prevent people from rolling on loot which is not their current AC. Well here is where the AC swap argument becomes hypocritical. The main basis for AC swapping is through choice and convenience of the player. Well, by saying "ok, with AC swap, we're going to gimp loot rolling" is removing one choice, in favor of another. I'm sorry, but I personally cannot gen on board with a proposal which takes away player choice in order to fulfill a choice which we have been told is permanent.
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Anzel
06.10.2013 , 10:57 AM | #676
Quote: Originally Posted by Icebergy View Post
They would have to be closer to 6,000-10,000 for it to be acceptable.
I think you're going to be really really disappointed. This feature is coming, it will cost Cartel Coins. People will use it. I'm sure there will be endless amounts of debate in this thread and others but EA will choose the option that they feel will give them the most short-term Cartel Coin purchases.
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Icebergy
06.10.2013 , 11:00 AM | #677
Quote: Originally Posted by Anzel View Post
I think you're going to be really really disappointed. This feature is coming, it will cost Cartel Coins. People will use it. I'm sure there will be endless amounts of debate in this thread and others but EA will choose the option that they feel will give them the most short-term Cartel Coin purchases.
I will most likely quit the game if/when that happens and I am sure I am not the only one. EA will have to decide if our subs make them more or less money than giving people the option to pay to change their class.
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branmakmuffin
06.10.2013 , 11:03 AM | #678
Quote: Originally Posted by Icebergy View Post
I will most likely quit the game if/when that happens and I am sure I am not the only one. EA will have to decide if our subs make them more or less money than giving people the option to pay to change their class.
Very few people would quit over something as trivial as this. Threaten to quit? Sure. People threaten to quit over every little change that they claim will "ruin the game." Then the change is implemented and, yet again, the sky does not fall.

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Icebergy
06.10.2013 , 11:04 AM | #679
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
Very few people would quit over something as trivial as this. Threaten to quit? Sure. People threaten to quit over every little change that they claim will "ruin the game." Then the change is implemented and, yet again, the sky does not fall.
Pay to win is not trivial.
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branmakmuffin
06.10.2013 , 11:06 AM | #680
Quote: Originally Posted by Icebergy View Post
Pay to win is not trivial.
AC change is not P2W.