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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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Bomyne
06.09.2013 , 10:59 PM | #631
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
no, Jedi Knight is the class, it's not a Jedi Sentinel/Guardian trainer, its the Jedi Knight trainer. When I make the character, I'm not making a Jedi Sentinel, I'm making the Jedi Knight.
Jedi Knight is not the class. It's the archtype. Similar to Mage and Priest in WoW (Among other classes) sharing the caster archtype.

Jedi Guardian and Jedi Sentinel are the classes.

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PeterTLJr
06.09.2013 , 10:59 PM | #632
Quote: Originally Posted by Hizoka View Post
they really do not use the same abilities. They both use slash and master strike but that is where they stop being the same.

a powertech will almost never use unload while its a major part of a merc rotation. Just like a merc will never use flamethrower rotatonally and its very important to powertechs.

The more you post the more you prove you have 0 grasp of the classes in this game.
thats like saying a holy paladin doesnt use crusader strike, but a ret paladin does, so that makes them separate classes.
In order to appreciate the Light, you must spend time in the Darkness.
Peace will win and fear will lose.

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PeterTLJr
06.09.2013 , 11:00 PM | #633
Quote: Originally Posted by Bomyne View Post
Jedi Knight is not the class. It's the archtype. Similar to Mage and Priest in WoW (Among other classes) sharing the caster archtype.

Jedi Guardian and Jedi Sentinel are the classes.
no, its the class.http://www.swtor.com/holonet/classes
READ THE CLASSES.
In order to appreciate the Light, you must spend time in the Darkness.
Peace will win and fear will lose.

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PeterTLJr
06.09.2013 , 11:01 PM | #634
Quote: Originally Posted by Jedi_Titus View Post
Once again they share similar abilities but there are many commando abilities that vanguards can't use.
just like any other game, a spec has abilities that they other specs cant use. but if they are the same class, they use some similar abilities.
In order to appreciate the Light, you must spend time in the Darkness.
Peace will win and fear will lose.

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Hizoka
06.09.2013 , 11:01 PM | #635
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
no, its the class.http://www.swtor.com/holonet/classes
READ THE CLASSES.
dude you lack the ability to understand that you are wrong. The advanced class is you class for the game. that is what the devs have said and guess what they devs will always be right.

Guardian and Sentinel are the classes that share the jedi knight story.

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Jedi_Titus
06.09.2013 , 11:04 PM | #636
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
the assassin and sorc both use lightning abilities. they both use a lightsaber, they go to the same trainer, they go to same story zones, they get same companions. one just specs into using a stronger lightsaber and more melee abilities, and the other chooses to use more lightning and force abilities. They are both still the Inquisitor.
Well just play an Inquisitor to level 55 and tell me how that goes.

There are 64 abilities only the assassin can use

http://www.torhead.com/class/7IwygTY...ilities;page:1

and 55 abilities only the sorcerer can use

http://www.torhead.com/class/26UDCpo/sith-sorcerer

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PeterTLJr
06.09.2013 , 11:05 PM | #637
Quote: Originally Posted by Jedi_Titus View Post
Well just play an Inquisitor to level 55 and tell me how that goes.

There are 64 abilities only the assassin can use

http://www.torhead.com/class/7IwygTY...ilities;page:1

and 55 abilities only the sorcerer can use

http://www.torhead.com/class/26UDCpo/sith-sorcerer
doesn't defeat the purpose that its still the same class. you go to Torhead, go to classes and it says Sith Inquisitor, then the specs. Not Sith Assassin, not Sith Sorc. If you go to Wowhead, the classes are there, then the specs.
In order to appreciate the Light, you must spend time in the Darkness.
Peace will win and fear will lose.

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PeterTLJr
06.09.2013 , 11:06 PM | #638
Quote: Originally Posted by Hizoka View Post
dude you lack the ability to understand that you are wrong. The advanced class is you class for the game. that is what the devs have said and guess what they devs will always be right.

Guardian and Sentinel are the classes that share the jedi knight story.
so they are both the jedi knight, if they were their own separate class, it would have different stories.
In order to appreciate the Light, you must spend time in the Darkness.
Peace will win and fear will lose.

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Jedi_Titus
06.09.2013 , 11:07 PM | #639
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
doesn't defeat the purpose that its still the same class. you go to Torhead, go to classes and it says Sith Inquisitor, then the specs. Not Sith Assassin, not Sith Sorc. If you go to Wowhead, the classes are there, then the specs.
http://www.noxxic.com/swtor

You go to your advanced class and there are your trees.

If you don't choose an advanced class you don't get any skill trees.

If you stay as a sith inquisitor you never get to put any skill points into a tree because you haven't chosen your class yet

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gabrielluigi
06.09.2013 , 11:08 PM | #640
Alright, you're all just arguing semantics. Pay attention.

SWTOR -- versus-- Classic MMO of your choice


Advanced Class = Class


The real difference is that SWTOR allows you to play around with your class a little before you actually choose it.
Class in this game is just for story and dialogue purposes. It's a lot like...

Class = Race

......in that, "this is how the game world responds to you."

Most, if not all, MMO's do not allow Class changes. (Remember that means "Advanced Class changes" in SWTOR) The reason is because, pay attention again.....

Say I level my Vanguard to 55, I should have learned how to play that Class (Advanced Class) by the time I get all my abilities, level 55. Now I start collecting awesome Elder Game Gear, but I'm sad because what I really wanted was a Commando and not a Vanguard so I go to the Retrain Vender (or where ever) and change my Class (Advanced Class). I now have Super Awesome Purple Gear but NO IDEA how to play my Class (Advanced Class).

This is why so many people (including myself, if you couldn't tell) are against Class (Advanced Class) swapping in ANY MMO. The other reason is because Nerfs and Buffs will happen in every MMO as Game Balance is, well, Rebalanced; and we all know that everyone on a perceived Nerfed Class (Advanced Class) would just jump ship instead of actually giving the changes a chance and relearning their Class (Advanced Class). (Every Balancing Patch proves this with the waves of QQ threads that start afterwards.)

That being said, (Pay Attention, just one more time) I think Advance Class changing will happen at some point. I won't be too upset, however, if they limit it to only before the end of Chapter 1 (or around level 32). That would give someone MORE than enough time to realize they made a mistake, but enough time to still figure their Advanced Class out before hitting End Game Content.