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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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Khevar
06.09.2013 , 10:02 PM | #601
Quote: Originally Posted by Hizoka View Post
the sad this is 99% of these whiny children QQing on this forum would never of played the video games of the 80s an 90s. The games back then required you to be good to progress... now they simply make games for the drooling offspring of soccer moms... They are the games that no matter what you beat the game because you don't actually have to be and good to win.
Oh, really? And when did you start playing computer games?

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PeterTLJr
06.09.2013 , 10:03 PM | #602
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
No. Trooper is the base class. Once you choose your AC, you are no longer just a trooper. You class becomes vanguard or commando. If you doubt me, do a /who, check your guild roster or just mouse over a vanguard or commando. Do you see any class listed as trooper-vanguard or trooper-commando? NO. You see vanguards and commandos because those are their classes, not trooper. This is why the game advises each and every player several times that the choice is permanent and there is NO going back. This has been backed up by the devs stating that the AC's are different classes.

Think of it as tree. The trunk is your base class, in this case trooper. The base class branches out into two separate and distinct classes( the AC's), much like the trunk separates into the branches of the tree. Once the trunk separates, the branches continue off in different directions, and do not meet up again. Once you start up one branch, in order to get to the other branch, you have to go back down to the point of separation and then go back up the other branch. That is not possible in this game. If you wish to see where that other branch might lead, you have to plant another tree, or roll another trooper to see what the commando is like, if you chose vanguard with the first trooper.
It's the trooper either way. Just because your a vanguard or a commando doesn't mean your no longer a trooper. When you make your character, you pick the trooper, not the commando or the vanguard, if they wanted it to be complete different classes they should have made that part of the creation process. Even after I select vanguard, im still a trooper in the story. So what you get a different label once you pick your AC that doesn't mean your no longer the trooper.

The most important thing is it's not switching classes, I'm not swapping a gun for a saber, I'm not turning from a trooper to a smuggler, I'm still the trooper in the end.
In order to appreciate the Light, you must spend time in the Darkness.
Peace will win and fear will lose.

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Jedi_Titus
06.09.2013 , 10:07 PM | #603
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
It's the trooper either way. Just because your a vanguard or a commando doesn't mean your no longer a trooper. When you make your character, you pick the trooper, not the commando or the vanguard, if they wanted it to be complete different classes they should have made that part of the creation process. Even after I select vanguard, im still a trooper in the story. So what you get a different label once you pick your AC that doesn't mean your no longer the trooper.
No it's just that way for story purpose. You get a feel for the class and what it entails.

Choosing the advanced class is like choosing a class in any other mmo.

If you choose to be a mage in Wow you can't change to be a warlock once you get to 90.

Let the argument rest please. Bioware still has people that have worked on multiple MMO's and they will never let you change your advanced class

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Hizoka
06.09.2013 , 10:09 PM | #604
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
Why do people keep trying to compare WoW classes to SWTOR classes? There not the same, quit using "well WoW didn't allow you to change classes" nobody cares, this isn't WoW. In WoW if you rolled a warrior, you could play any spec you wanted without having to make a new character, in this game if you rolled a knight you have to play 2 knights to play all specs.

That being said, I'd like to see AC switching, with some restrictions. Only so many per character and time limit in between. I'm not a big fan of my 55 vanguard and wish I could switch to a commando, and I'd have no problem rerolling if what I accomplished on my vanguard switched over, mounts, titles, achievements, gear, ect, would switch over as well.
no you are wrong. If you are a Sentinel that is your class you have 3 specs to choose from. A Guardian is a completely different class which has 3 specs in it. The wow analogy works just fine.

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Jedi_Titus
06.09.2013 , 10:10 PM | #605
Quote: Originally Posted by Hizoka View Post
no you are wrong. If you are a Sentinel that is your class you have 3 specs to choose from. A Guardian is a completely different class which has 3 specs in it. The wow analogy works just fine.
This, you could use a dozen other MMO's as examples not just WoW

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LordArtemis
06.09.2013 , 10:15 PM | #606
Quote: Originally Posted by Jedi_Titus View Post
No it's just that way for story purpose. You get a feel for the class and what it entails.

Choosing the advanced class is like choosing a class in any other mmo.

If you choose to be a mage in Wow you can't change to be a warlock once you get to 90.

Let the argument rest please. Bioware still has people that have worked on multiple MMO's and they will never let you change your advanced class
Ah. There it is. The same "I want you to stop trying so I will tell you it will never happen" comment.

Quote: Originally Posted by Duffy and Damon Shubert

18. Will be there any faction or Advanced Class change option available for purchase in the future?

We have had serious talks recently about offering an Advanced Class change option – I think that one will likely happen eventually. Species is likely as well. Doing a faction switch is considerably more difficult for us, though, due to the various quest flags set throughout the level up process, so this isn’t on the horizon anytime soon.
Italics added for emphasis, otherwise verbatim.

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PeterTLJr
06.09.2013 , 10:26 PM | #607
Quote: Originally Posted by Jedi_Titus View Post
No it's just that way for story purpose. You get a feel for the class and what it entails.

Choosing the advanced class is like choosing a class in any other mmo.

If you choose to be a mage in Wow you can't change to be a warlock once you get to 90.

Let the argument rest please. Bioware still has people that have worked on multiple MMO's and they will never let you change your advanced class
So it's ok for a Paladin to go from a tank to a healer to a dps, but if I wanted to do that on my Trooper it's not ok?
In order to appreciate the Light, you must spend time in the Darkness.
Peace will win and fear will lose.

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Jedi_Titus
06.09.2013 , 10:31 PM | #608
Quote: Originally Posted by LordArtemis View Post
Ah. There it is. The same "I want you to stop trying so I will tell you it will never happen" comment.



Italics added for emphasis, otherwise verbatim.

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Lol, I didn't stop trying, If they offer the advanced class change. I guarantee it was not the choice of the developers, but EA telling them to implement it for money in the form of cartel coins.

If they implement this it will ruin the game.

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Jedi_Titus
06.09.2013 , 10:33 PM | #609
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
So it's ok for a Paladin to go from a tank to a healer to a dps, but if I wanted to do that on my Trooper it's not ok?
You have skill trees. I can go from a tank assassin to a dps assassin. It's the same concept. Bioware chose not to have a class that did all three.

It was a design choice

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PeterTLJr
06.09.2013 , 10:35 PM | #610
Quote: Originally Posted by Hizoka View Post
no you are wrong. If you are a Sentinel that is your class you have 3 specs to choose from. A Guardian is a completely different class which has 3 specs in it. The wow analogy works just fine.
K lets use WoW analogy. I make a warrior right? I get to level 10 I pick Fury as my spec. I get certain abilities from being Fury, then I get some points to put in a tree where I want. Why is that any different then picking a Sentinel getting certain abilities for it, then putting points in the tree where I want. Then lets say as a warrior, I want to go Protection, I talk to my WARRIOR trainer and respec get new abilities then put points elsewhere. Why can't I do this in SWTOR?
In order to appreciate the Light, you must spend time in the Darkness.
Peace will win and fear will lose.