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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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chimex
06.09.2013 , 07:15 AM | #581
Personally, I dislike the idea of changing AC's after selection. If it's a change of playstyle without repeating content that you're after, roll the mirror AC and play the other faction.

However, I also understand that yes, people invest a lot of time and effort with their chars, and want to keep the progress (especially if in a good guild). I think having the option to pay for AC changes will open the floodgates to many issues (with over 500 posts thus far, I think it's safe to say most have been covered. Even if you disagree with them!)

However, I don't think it's too much to ask for 2 "lifetime" change options for a character (with a respectful cooldown between the two!) Giving them a chance to try the other AC. If they don't like it, they have the option to change back. After that, I believe there should not be an option to change again on that character, EVER!

Tbh, I think that's probably going to be the closest this community is ever going to get in the way of an agreement on this issue. Sounds reasonable?
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TheDarkRanger
06.09.2013 , 09:06 AM | #582
Yes, sounds reasonable, chimex.

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Flaniganican
06.09.2013 , 10:23 AM | #583
While I don't care for the idea of an AC change in general, I don't think I would have a problem with it if you could only do it ONCE per character or per legacy.
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chimex
06.09.2013 , 10:56 AM | #584
Quote: Originally Posted by Flaniganican View Post
While I don't care for the idea of an AC change in general, I don't think I would have a problem with it if you could only do it ONCE per character or per legacy.
You see, that was my first and foremost idea. However, giving the option to change back ONCE per character stops the inevitable "I rerolled my AC, and I HATE IT! I wanna go back" whiplash from that idea.
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Avicii
06.09.2013 , 12:59 PM | #585
I really think it should be capped at below max level as it can create issues as noted in this thread. Capping it at 30 or 40 and make it x2 per toon or something. That way you can play the class if you don't like it swap. This will help with FoTM swapping or stacking certain classes in raids ect. Probably make it cost CC as well, not that I agree with it but with a f2p game or make it subs only.


That is how I would see it being a compromise more or less.

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MajikMyst
06.09.2013 , 01:56 PM | #586
Quote: Originally Posted by Ajaxduo View Post
I really don't see the problem with implementing a paid of advanced class respec.
That would be a pay to win option and we all should know that is a bad thing.. Pay to win doesn't belong in any game, let alone this one..
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drorold
06.09.2013 , 02:04 PM | #587
plase chnge ac

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MajikMyst
06.09.2013 , 02:06 PM | #588
Quote: Originally Posted by chimex View Post
However, I don't think it's too much to ask for 2 "lifetime" change options for a character (with a respectful cooldown between the two!) Giving them a chance to try the other AC. If they don't like it, they have the option to change back. After that, I believe there should not be an option to change again on that character, EVER!
See.. The problem with that is the current conversation we are having now.. Nobody knows what permanent means as it is.. The game says your choice is permanent and can't be changed... What makes you think your 2 changes only, after that no changes EVER is going to be any different?? People will still demand more..

If Bioware allows it once or twice, they will have shown that permanent means nothing and they will cave on the issue if there is enough complaining.. Well, if they allow it twice, they will allow it more times.. It is just a matter of time and a lot of complaining on the forums..

Is your idea reasonable?? Sure.. It should have been implemented before the game launched.. But now?? No.. AC's need to stay permanent.. And people need to look up the word permanent and come to terms with what it means..
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Hizoka
06.09.2013 , 02:15 PM | #589
asking for an AC change in no different then asking Blizzard to let you change your mage into a rogue.

It is a completely stupid request in that game, yet you seem to think its ok in this game....


there are 8 classes on each side of this game not 4. There are only 4 stories on each side but each story applies to 2 classes. Your Advanced Class is your class it is not a spec. The sad thing is you have the little lazy kid player who wants everything without earning anything which think this change is ok. Then you have the intelligent player who knows what the meaning of "cannot be changed."

The problem with the new "gamer" is they grow up with a mom that never makes them earn anything, they are given everything without anything put into it. As a child they went to soccer and regardless if they scored a goal or ate dirt in the corner they get a first place trophy. All it does is teach kids that just showing up gets you everything you never have to earn anything. That is why so many gravitate to PvP, you get rewarded for showing up regardless oh what you do in the warzone. In PvE you have to work together as a team you have to be aware of more then just you and you cannot get rewarded by losing.

Its just pathetic how many gamers want instant max level character for no reason other then "i do not want to earn it by leveling another character." After all that is the only reason for it, they simply are too lazy to level a new character so they feel entitled to have one for no reason other then they want it.

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Khevar
06.09.2013 , 02:47 PM | #590
Quote: Originally Posted by Hizoka View Post
asking for an AC change in no different then asking Blizzard to let you change your mage into a rogue.

It is a completely stupid request in that game, yet you seem to think its ok in this game....


there are 8 classes on each side of this game not 4. There are only 4 stories on each side but each story applies to 2 classes. Your Advanced Class is your class it is not a spec. The sad thing is you have the little lazy kid player who wants everything without earning anything which think this change is ok. Then you have the intelligent player who knows what the meaning of "cannot be changed."

The problem with the new "gamer" is they grow up with a mom that never makes them earn anything, they are given everything without anything put into it. As a child they went to soccer and regardless if they scored a goal or ate dirt in the corner they get a first place trophy. All it does is teach kids that just showing up gets you everything you never have to earn anything. That is why so many gravitate to PvP, you get rewarded for showing up regardless oh what you do in the warzone. In PvE you have to work together as a team you have to be aware of more then just you and you cannot get rewarded by losing.

Its just pathetic how many gamers want instant max level character for no reason other then "i do not want to earn it by leveling another character." After all that is the only reason for it, they simply are too lazy to level a new character so they feel entitled to have one for no reason other then they want it.
I think it's interesting that throughout this thread, you are completely incapable of making your point without being insulting, derogatory, patronizing and arrogant.

It's almost as if you don't want to try and change anyone else's mind on the subject by presenting a logical coherent argument. You just want to convince the world that you are somehow better than everyone else.