ETA on Advanced Class change?

For my part, that stems from incredulity that anyone gets so angry about it. The way some of the "anti" folks talk, you'd think it would directly impact their ability to earn a living.

I say why not. If people were not smart enough to research advance classes before they picked them and are too lazy to reroll a new character, then let them have their 1800 CC advance class change.

I understand your point. Just as an aside, I wasn't directing my point at you specifically, just keeping it fair in general.

I've seen emotional points made on both sides....and I myself have gotten a bit worked up when attacked by certain specific members that were under the impression that I was in the pro group. But those particular posters have a LONG history of trolling behavior on the forums...all one has to do is look up their post history.

One poster in particular does little else besides trolling at every opportunity obviously without regard for forum rules.

They know who they are.

At any rate, I feel that the discussion should continue so the idea can get refined into something that the majority would likely accept...speculative naturally, but I think that is what some folks are trying to accomplish here.

Ask and ye shall receive:


A "one time deal" is exactly that. You only get ONE chance at something, not a chance and then "oops, I made a mistake, let me change my mind" . "A one time time deal, with a 30 day period to return back" means it would not be a "one time deal". It would be a multiple time deal. Maybe you should pay more attention to what you write.

It sounds like he's saying "one chance to change it", and if you decided you made a mistake it would revert back, as long as you reverted back within 30 days. And having blown your one chance you're now done with AC changes on that toon.

That's not the same as a multiple time deal.

Want to change classes? Roll a new toon.

It's not that difficult, and it's sure not as if leveling is difficult, either. You'll have your FOTM in no time....

I concur with this. I think it is clear what was meant...not to allow multiple changes on a whim, perhaps one or two changes to serve those that simply wish to correct a mistake....if I am reading that right.

That seems to be the most common compromise suggestion. It differs a bit on cool down time, amount of changes allowed, and level at which it should be allowed.

I favor shortly after the first time you choose, if anything. I'm still pretty iffy on allowing it later on. But I haven't made up my mind yet.

More than one change is multiple times. You cannot argue simple math.

Was that poster asking to be able to change unlimited times? No.

I understand his intent, but my point is we have people arguing to allow them to change class because "I made a mistake", "this class is too weak", "I refuse to level another character" or whatever reason they deem sufficient. We have some of those people asking for restrictions, while trying to leave themselves wiggle room, even in their own proposed restrictions.

If they cannot even refrain from trying to leave themselves wiggle room in their own proposed restrictions, why should I believe that those same people will not be back here 3 months after BW allows class changes (IF they allow class changes) asking for more opportunities to change class because their new class got nerfed, the other class got buffed, their guild now needs a tank and not a healer, or whatever new reason they have for wanting to change class again? After all, they allowed it once, why not a second time?

Never.

Class changing was a massive problem in SWG. I don't want to see it destroy another MMO.

Some of my favorite contentions made from what I consider the hardcore players crowd. Yet those changes came to be. And the game is better for it IMO. It is just plain silly, as it was then, to contend that reroll is the only option that makes sense. It is a cop out that I believe folks use when they simply do not like an idea.

If the past is any indicator, at least with the staff in place at present it seems it is a contention that is usually ignored.