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Jugg Tank, Where are the drops for this class in the 55HM's?

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Jugg Tank, Where are the drops for this class in the 55HM's?

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Themanthatisi
06.03.2013 , 10:42 AM | #1
I just wanted to see if anyone else is having the issue I seem to be having.... No matter how many 55 HM's I run, or the few ops I been in, I NEVER see drops for my tank/class. Matter of fact, a guild mate of mine, also notices this and he actually believed that the stuff hardly drops, if at all. So, he said to me, watch, Ill use mine as a DPS and with 2 in the same HM, I bet one will drop. Yes, it did, but for a DPS, not a tank. I am getting frustrated....

Also, to make matters worse, every time I have enough elite coms, all that is available has alacrity and absorption in all of them, why? apparently, these 2 stats are not even that useful, especially alacrity. I have mostly 69 purple mods/armoring now and started to replace my 69 enhancements, back to 66, just so i can shed some of this alacrity and asorb and get my D back up, but I still have over 31% shield and 27% absorb, but only 16% defense, the one stat I want more of.... Yes, I got plenty of augments to help my defense stat, since the drops, or lack of and the items you buy with coms, seem to hate defense and want you to have way too much of the other.

OH, and if a BH runs with me, why does it seem, nothing but Aim drops about 75% of the time, does the game lean toward AIM items in drops when a BH is running in a group?

What really bothers me, even if the drops happened, the stat boosts would still be too high in some areas and low in others, like the defense rating....

It seems, if you are a melee tank, the only way to really gear up properly, is through GTN, where the prices start at 1 million PER mod and go up.... really?

I wonder why tanks do not pug and are becoming more and more rare, the game actually does not reward tanks the way other classes seem to be rewarded.... Bad enough, we take the highest repair costs usually.

I do know, if I was able to get in more OPs at 55, I would maybe see more, but its not easy to get in some, I am in a small guild, but I love the guys, another guild will tap my shoulder as a sub tank when they are lacking one... but its not often and OPs is not somehting very desrable to pug, I am not into costly repair bills for too many wipes playing with people you do not know.

If I am wrong, please say so and give me some ideas... I love this game, but I am board of leveling and what I love to do, is horrible in its rewards. I told my wife this morning, my time in the game may be coming to a close if I can even enjoy using my favorite toon without frustration.

BW, if drops have to be so rare, PLEASE give the vendors items that are not full of a ton of alacrity and asorb please.... Why do I have to feel punished for playing a Jugg tank?

BTW, my wife is a healing sorc and she gets drops, her vendor also has nice goodies for her with useful stats. She is happy... I am frustrated. I guess to be happier, like so many others, I will need to DPS a marauder and give up tanking as a way to have fun. The DPS stuff at the vendor is nice, those guys get good stat increases that are actually useful.

WHY DO I NEED ALACRITY??? I am a tank, I need defense.... did I miss the memo? lol

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AGSThomas
06.03.2013 , 11:41 AM | #2
Why are all women healing classes?! :P

I know exactly what you are saying. I've been tanking for about 3 weeks. I still don't have all 69 gear. Although, to be fair you don't actually need BIS to tank HMs. I was running around with 26k when I came back to this game. But on the other hand it does annoy me when I get a set piece that has alacrity on it. I was under the impression Alacrity was worthless for a tank.
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Themanthatisi
06.03.2013 , 11:58 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by AGSThomas View Post
Why are all women healing classes?! :P

I know exactly what you are saying. I've been tanking for about 3 weeks. I still don't have all 69 gear. Although, to be fair you don't actually need BIS to tank HMs. I was running around with 26k when I came back to this game. But on the other hand it does annoy me when I get a set piece that has alacrity on it. I was under the impression Alacrity was worthless for a tank.
LOL... Actually, she did a respec a few nights ago to a DPS sorc, and loved it, so she will respec into either now... which, for their gear, is very similar. Heavy willpower, power, surge, crit.... and with healing, maybe some Alacrity. A great class for running as either, without a huge cost tied to it.
Needless to say, she has taken a love to killing more than healing, but when we need her to heal, she will.

I am not struggling as a tank either, I do have 34k base HP without stims or buffs, but can I survive better, take more pressure off heals if I had more D and less alacrity, most definitely I would think.

We were all under the impression, that post 2.0, Alacrity would be good, but in reality, its not helping many except for healers and even then, some debate even exists if its worth it depending on the healer you talk to. Maybe its a stat that should just be removed completely from the game..... Or make it even more valuable, like my AOE aggro pull having a much better cooldown. But I would probably have to have so much alacrity anyway, I would become soft and useless. BW devs seem to want us to have it in tank gear to the point of ridiculous, I would just like to know why and why is it more prevalent, over more important stats, like defense. They can even give the com vendors other items, with other stats, that is not full of Alacrity so we have a choice.... and have the freedom to build up a toon, as we like.

If mods on GTN were not 1mil + per, I would just go that route.... I am sure the crafters love the junk that drops, they get to sell the stuff we actually want if we are willing to pay.
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chuixupu
06.03.2013 , 12:12 PM | #4
Sometimes you just get the worst luck. I could swear that I see more warrior gear drop than anything else.

But, one thing that can help you is to try to run with multiple Juggs. The more of a certain class is in a group, the higher the chance for that class drop is.
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PlasmaJohn
06.03.2013 , 12:18 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Themanthatisi View Post
I just wanted to see if anyone else is having the issue I seem to be having.... No matter how many 55 HM's I run, or the few ops I been in, I NEVER see drops for my tank/class. Matter of fact, a guild mate of mine, also notices this and he actually believed that the stuff hardly drops, if at all.
Funny, I posted a similar thread a few days ago in the FP/OPs/Heroics forum.
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=645824

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WHY DO I NEED ALACRITY??? I am a tank, I need defense.... did I miss the memo? lol
One of the devs stated that alacrity would be more broadly useful in 2.0. Apparently the equipment team believed him. It seems they never bothered to test that theory in simulation or practice. As a sentinel for alacrity to make any difference I need to stack so much that I lose DPS because I've just sacrificed so much power.

I haven't been looking at tank pieces as closely. Are there no comms bought ones that have a decent mod or enhancement? Some of the sent pieces I have to buy one piece for the armoring and gloves or boots for the mod & enh.

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Themanthatisi
06.03.2013 , 12:21 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by chuixupu View Post
Sometimes you just get the worst luck. I could swear that I see more warrior gear drop than anything else.

But, one thing that can help you is to try to run with multiple Juggs. The more of a certain class is in a group, the higher the chance for that class drop is.
Yeah, you are right, it does work... I did this yesterday, as I mentioned in OP, one of my guildies, has a Jugg as an alt... Well, I got a drop, but it was for a DPS, heavy on strength and crit... the purple 69's had less endurance than my 66 purples. lol. He usually plays on his BH and gets Aim drops every single run, sometimes more than one per HM.

Actually, he gave up tanking, due to this reason.... His attitude, the DPS version has better gear. However, he is not a fan of tanking much, and prefers his Assassin over a jugg when he does decide to tank.
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Greenify
06.03.2013 , 12:28 PM | #7
More importantly, why do I have an akranian mainhand on all my charecters? Why do I win that role but no others?

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Themanthatisi
06.03.2013 , 12:39 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by PlasmaJohn View Post
Funny, I posted a similar thread a few days ago in the FP/OPs/Heroics forum.
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=645824


One of the devs stated that alacrity would be more broadly useful in 2.0. Apparently the equipment team believed him. It seems they never bothered to test that theory in simulation or practice. As a sentinel for alacrity to make any difference I need to stack so much that I lose DPS because I've just sacrificed so much power.

I haven't been looking at tank pieces as closely. Are there no comms bought ones that have a decent mod or enhancement? Some of the sent pieces I have to buy one piece for the armoring and gloves or boots for the mod & enh.
Thank you, I just posted in there as well..... I even mention, in my OP, that I can live with rare drops, but they should fix what the vendors carry. Grinding my rear off to get more Elites only adds to the frustration once I look again. the ONLY thing I was able to buy, that did not have asorb/alactity, was bracers for 80 elites.... everything else for a tank, has the useless stuff.... I been buying it anyway, at least the armornings are good.
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Aelther
06.03.2013 , 01:11 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Themanthatisi View Post
IWHY DO I NEED ALACRITY??? I am a tank, I need defense.... did I miss the memo? lol
Same reason why EVERYTHING has a castbar. (even interacting with a galaxy map)... to waste time. All mmos are about wasting time. It would be very easy and fast if you could just get bis just like that. Now you need to farm at least 5 times longer to get what you need and to get rid of useless stuff like alacrity or accuracy.

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Maelael
06.03.2013 , 01:32 PM | #10
Heh irony. I've done a bunch of 55hms and Ops and never seen a single Sorc piece drop. I had about 5 pieces of really nice Jugg tank gear in the bank for a while nobody wanted and I got out of the random.

Further funny? Never had a Jugg tank when that stuff dropped. Always sins.