Operative Healing

So explain something to me. How is it that operatives now have the most mobility on top of everything they had before. Their Hots are very strong, they can heal from cover, they have dodge, and stealth. They can scamper all over the map being the most mobile player. They are the only healer that can heal from a crouched position that is called "cover" even though there is no cover around and they are a healer not a dps class. Cover for a sniper or gunslinger makes perfect sense. For a healer it is the dumbest ****. They can't be pulled or leapt to and they are the only healer that has anything close to that on top of stealth which they always had which people seem to forget as being a pretty damn good ability for a healer. They can stealth out...they can stealth over to a node without being slowed or stopped by the opposition etc.

Their regen is ridiculous and they barely have to cast a heal with all the instants they have. So if you are going to say that scamper kills your energy....yes I know....I am sorry that you cant scamper across the entire map and instantly be at full energy throwing out heals. Just because it costs energy....its not like energy management on an operative healer is exactly a problem right now....

Since 2.0 each class got an additional ability. From duel saber throw, reflect, sniper roll, sage bubble, commando root thing. All of it have been nice additions to every class. They have caused you to be even smarter when playing classes etc. Not one of those abilities has so completely broken pvp as scamper. It has completely changed the nature of pvp.

If you don't have an operative you are screwed. If you are in civil war and they have an operative or smuggler and you don't they cap their node long before you can and they just hold mid indefinitely. In voidstar once they get the first door they stealth out and scamper to the datacore. Where no one can catch them unless you are lucky enough to have a decent operative on your team.

I mean I literally don't know what you people are thinking. I mean do you people even play the game? Have you ever been up against a good operative. Where they are always in cover when healing. Where they roll from node to node in stealth without a prayer to stop them and can reinforce nodes in no time at all.

There is not one....not one speed buff that is spammable in the game before scamper. Now you give them an ability that is spammable on top of everything else they have. Like if stealth, out of combat mezzes, stuns, roots, and an 8 sec mezz wasn't enough? I have seen comments about how omg you can't nerf scamper....please its like everyone forgot they already had a pretty damn good ability which was stealth. You can adjust the energy cost to compensate, but have a spammable buggy thing like scamper is beyond ridiculous at this point. I am not talking about a crappy operative that sits there out of cover and heals. So if you are going to flame me you are an idiot.

No ability has so profoundly changed the way we play pvp. Take something away from them because its pretty ridiculous already especially considering that they warp across your screen. You need to delay a cartel shipment for a week and fix a lot of the crap in pvp where people warp all over the screen especially in huttball. Its embarrassing that they have been in the game this long already.

That cover prevents them from being leaped to. If you are stationary without cover you are doing it wrong. Not only are you more obvious, I can get to you that much easier on my guardian while benefitting from my set bonus of more damage on leap. L2P.

Operative healers are so overpowered they are broken. Scamper is only one aspect of it, mobile instant cost-free healing is the other. A fine product of Bioware's class balance "team". I would love to see their forum contortionism if they should try to fix this. The stupidity and complete lack of foresight involved in creating this situation is breathtaking.

Incidentally, with the double proc relics soon to go the way of the dodo the burst in this game is going to tank a bit which will affect dps' ability to take down healers more than the concomitant decrease in healing.

I think Operative healing is clearly designed only for PvE. If you try to heal PvE like the way you do in PvP as an Operative you'd just have a dead group really fast. Unfortunately for players we do not have super speed or the ability to do 100% of our DPS from range at any time we wish like mobs can (it's common for a melee mob to just whip out a gun and start shooting people for identical damage as its melee damage).

Well, then it should be easy to fix by nerfing low power hots and instant heals while maybe buffing their cast heals, right? And of course scamper.

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Slow them.

Originally Posted by Sziroten
That's how bad class developer would "fix" and did fix classes... yes but I'm not asking for this. I'm not sure why it has to be brought to attention what makes operatives superior than sorc/ mercs but let me try.

Operative
stealth
vanish
exfilitrate
>30% 0 cost unlimited heal
optional cover "state" = immune to pull/ leap
very strong single player heal fokus
flashbang
shield probe
evasion

Sorc
bubble (skilled = stuns player when your own bubble runs out)
lvl 51 bubble (sitting immune duck)
force speed
overload (skilled = roots player)
10 sec. Interrupt Immuntiy
Instant AoE heal
Root break on Force Speed + Immunity while sprinting
Rescue pull (beast mode for HB)
Very strong AoE "fokus"

Mercenary
jet boost
supercharged gas
energy shield (skilled = immune to interrupts)
hydraulic overrides
stealth scan
Heavy Armor
High Single target burst healing
Spammable slow that heals team + big unlimited Aoe small HoT
I have no clue how you left Electro Net off of here
You wanna see unkillable healer attack a guarded Mando with his Reactive Shield + WZ adrenal up

You seemed to forget some of the things that made the other healers strong. don't worry I fixed it for you. It came off as a little biased at first.