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The datacron system is awful and needs to be redesigned from the ground up.

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The datacron system is awful and needs to be redesigned from the ground up.

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RyukanoHi
12.21.2011 , 05:24 PM | #61
"The idea that datacrons should be given a little 'hey, look for these' moment for newbies is a good one. I'll give that a thumbs up, but otherwise, while my character has joked about doing horrible things to the creatures that placed these immovable beacons of evil, they are a fine game mechanic."

"I've accepted that this game recognizes it's a game, and to facilitate the best possible game, some weird world things have to be introduced. RPers just have to be creative in making in world things work."

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Systam
12.21.2011 , 05:25 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by RyukanoHi View Post
"The idea that datacrons should be given a little 'hey, look for these' moment for newbies is a good one. I'll give that a thumbs up, but otherwise, while my character has joked about doing horrible things to the creatures that placed these immovable beacons of evil, they are a fine game mechanic."

"I've accepted that this game recognizes it's a game, and to facilitate the best possible game, some weird world things have to be introduced. RPers just have to be creative in making in world things work."
i think they're Fine and rather fun but its going to be needed endgame but if you can't see if people have em then u won't know. Its +70 to every stat >.>

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Wager
12.21.2011 , 05:28 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Allurial View Post
Why is it when anyone makes a suggestion everyone here jumps down their throats as they are evil incarnate and we have to accept the game as is. If not, we are worse the the Sith on these forums..
Because they're rarely submitted with mitigating language that presents them as opinions. They are typically presented as, "This is WRONG! My idea is RIGHT!" The natural reaction to somebody saying something is wrong when it is not necessarily wrong is to correct them ... At least when it's presented in an open forum of discussion.

Of course, this response to you is only a slightly mitigated way of saying that the OP posted wrong.
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Potatopower
12.21.2011 , 05:28 PM | #64
Another MMO player ruined by the 'hand holding' that WoW encouraged so much.

If only some of these people played Anarchy Online around launch, their eyes would bleed.
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AlacrityFitzhugh
12.21.2011 , 05:34 PM | #65
Datacrons are perfectly fine the way they are. The concept and placement was thoroughly tested in Beta, and found to be acceptable. If you don't like it, then ignore them. They don't affect your character significantly, and are just little perks for those of us who like to explore.
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Allurial
12.21.2011 , 05:35 PM | #66
Also I like hard, I <3 Dark Souls and Demon Souls, but those are well designed hard.. I don't like hard because the game glitches or because the mechanics suck.. If they kept the current system in place but improved the mechanics that'd would be better then what they have now.

I.E on the support thread area they are saying there is one datacron you can get because body type three cant fit in the area... Do I need to go L2P to figure out a way to shrink the body? Or should I just be happy that it's impossible and keep trying?

Edit: Or can someone "come hold my hand" even though I never played WoW and infact started back in UO and EQ.... Guess those games ruined my view as well.

/ sorry about rant.

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Dendore
12.21.2011 , 05:37 PM | #67
It makes more sense for "rare" items to be in places where people "rarely" go. I wouldn't mind adding additional ones as quest rewards or something in similar style to what you suggest, but keep the existing ones as is. It's a nice quirk.
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SciFiMike
12.21.2011 , 05:40 PM | #68
I have no issue w/ the datacrons. There like badges or achievements in other games. They shouldn't be easy to find, but should make explore all the nooks and crannies of the game
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Pixieydust
12.21.2011 , 05:42 PM | #69
I don't think some people are getting the point, for me I thought they would be off the beaten path, ect. I don't mind exploration, I love it in fact. It is the precise jumping for some of them that is really quite bad for people like me who are not good at them. Even with practice I won't be able to get some of them due to the fact that I have latency and also I have problems with my fingers. I know this is not Bioware's problem, but when they were first being talked about, if I had known about the jumping aspect of it like the ones on Coruscant, I would have known to just skip them. I am a completionist and this is going to be hard for me I like the lore behind each datacron, but my fingers can't get the jumping correct.

I don't mind having to work hard for them, minus the jumping LOL but I am very happy for those that can do it! =)

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imtrick
12.21.2011 , 05:43 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Allurial View Post
Why is it when anyone makes a suggestion everyone here jumps down their throats as they are evil incarnate and we have to accept the game as is. If not, we are worse the the Sith on these forums..
'Cuz, yeah, thinking datacrons are just fine the way they are is far worse than, say, destroying entire solar systems full of sentient life.

And, honestly, some people are going to jumpy at the first sign of "dumb this game down," which is a semi-logical interpretation of some of the OP's suggestions. Personally, I think it's a good thing overall that they want to fight that kind of mentality.