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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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Ancaglon
05.28.2013 , 07:58 AM | #161
Quote: Originally Posted by Rankyn View Post
I don't see it as that big of a deal.
However, it's unlikely that it'll be any sort of "unlock" or "switch" that can be done like some sort of field respec.

I figure it's possible from a technical standpoint because Advanced Classes don't seem to hook too deeply into the system like Faction, base class, or gender do.
There aren't any storyline or companion changes that would need to be made.
Swap out one power set for another and you've changed advanced classes.
Sure, a lot of your equipment would be obsolete, but that'd be something you'd have to deal with on your own.

I'd expect it to cost about 1800cc which is the cost of a high-end cosmetic item and consistent with their policy of pricing things so that they can be paid for with just the subscriber stipend.
By making it 1800, that would place a limiting factor on it to once every 3 months without coughing up cash to do it more often.
I was just about to type a response when I saw that Rankyn had already said it all even the price seems right, although I would impose a minimum cooldown period on switches, say 30 days, regardless of how much money you have to spare.

(Obviously also, your gear wouldn't change to match, and if you were to change from say Guardian to Sentinel most of your gear would be unusable unless you were using Adaptive shells).

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LordArtemis
05.28.2013 , 08:01 AM | #162
Quote: Originally Posted by Denzul View Post
Of course I am as you are entitled to yours. It has actually happened with a game called SWG that implemented similar changes that caused a mass exodus of players.
This suggestion and the changes that we have had lately in no way correlates with the CU/NGE. Not even a shred of similarity between the two with perhaps one notable exception...a major change was made. That's it.


SWG was a stable title that was changed based on the idea that it should capture WoW like levels.

This game was already a WoW parallel and is being changed to make it LESS like WoW.


Customization and choice was REMOVED by the CU/NGE in SWG.

Customization and choice has been added to this game with the recent changes.


SWG was a sandbox game that had Themepark elements added with the CU/NGE.

SWTOR was a themepark game that had "sandboxy" elements added with the recent changes.



The mass exodus of players happened AFTER the CU/NGE was implemented.

The mass exodus of player happened BEFORE the recent changes in this game were implemented.



The CU/NGE was arguably the death knell for SWG.

The launch state of this game was it's death knell. The recent changes have likely saved it.


Huge difference IMO.

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Ancaglon
05.28.2013 , 08:13 AM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by hchsiao View Post
True and False since I never train newer rank of double strike on my sage. However I do have to train newer rank of project on my shadow. (all 3 shadow spec use it.)

No one will play Knight and Sith warrior as well since Consular or Smuggler or Trooper can fill any role in the holy trinity by switch around.
I'm pretty sure Project is not part of the Balance shadow rotation at 55.

Also, I'd love to know, which Smuggler Advanced Class is the Tank?

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Quraswren
05.28.2013 , 08:26 AM | #164
AC changes is something I could get behind and I can see where people might get into a class and dislike it.
  • Having an AC change could encourage individuals to play the game more / longer. Keeping subs going.
  • It could be priced in a way that few would ever be able to abuse it.
  • It could still have a time limit placed on doing it.
  • It wouldn't affect AC balance since there is nothing in place now for balancing AC's.
  • It's also the prefect money maker as there are those that really want this. This is one of the few things I see as: "should belong in the cartel market." (given that so much of the other stuff should not be)

I think overall it's a win/win for the game and for players.

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branmakmuffin
05.28.2013 , 09:06 AM | #165
Quote: Originally Posted by Denzul View Post
There are a plethora of reasons/scenarios as to why this should not be included as opposed to one reason it should...which is Convenience.
The reasons against it boil down to "Because I don't like it." Which is not a worthless reason, but it's no more compelling than "I like it because it's convenient."

It's a game, not a spurting artery. No one's gonna die because someone converts their level 55 Gunslinger into a Scoundrel. Get over yourselves.

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Themanthatisi
05.28.2013 , 09:25 AM | #166
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
The reasons against it boil down to "Because I don't like it." Which is not a worthless reason, but it's no more compelling than "I like it because it's convenient."

It's a game, not a spurting artery. No one's gonna die because someone converts their level 55 Gunslinger into a Scoundrel. Get over yourselves.
I agree... I think many may have too much time on their hands and think they "run" the game...
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branmakmuffin
05.28.2013 , 10:11 AM | #167
Quote: Originally Posted by Themanthatisi View Post
I agree... I think many may have too much time on their hands and think they "run" the game...
I would not use such a feature, but I see no reason not to open it up to others if they're will to pay CC for it.

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shadowrouge
05.28.2013 , 10:30 AM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by SW_display_name View Post
So, the Species Change and Barber Shop mentioned in the Dulfy interview from months ago are finally realities. That's a good sign! It means the devs are actually serious about their "Yeah, we'd like to do that" statements.

In that same interview, it was mentioned that Advanced Class changes were also on the table and likely to happen. I'm curious if the community team can update us on whether there's any time-table for when this will be implemented.

Ideally, I'd love it to be a switch you can unlock, then flip any time — finally allowing me to Tank & Heal with one character.

But in reality I'm sure it will cost like 6000 Cartel Coins to unlock it, then another 2000 Cartel Coins every time you switch (discounted 3.2% for subscribers, of course) with a 2 month cooldown. Oh well, what can you do? As a start, I'd be happy just to have the option in-game, in any form.

So! Does BioWare have any upcoming plans for this that can be shared with us?

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Edit: While I am proud of how much you are feeding the Dark Side with your blind anger and hate, and vehement vows of impossibility, let me remind you of (source):


We got the Species part. That makes the AC part also have a lot of credibility.

So anyway, any ETA or news, community team?
You want AC change? Fine let all the wahh wahh I dont like my class I want to change have their AC change. On two conditions, 1) there is a flag in the player inspection screen that says was and is for class. that way I dont have to group with people who switch AC. 2) it cost 5000CC PER re AC.

Meaning you dont pay for the change and get to do it how ever often. You pay 5000CC ever single time you want to change and then only ONCE a year.

Meet these conditons and you can have AC change all you want.
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branmakmuffin
05.28.2013 , 10:34 AM | #169
Quote: Originally Posted by shadowrouge View Post
You want AC change? Fine let all the wahh wahh I dont like my class I want to change have their AC change.
All the "wahh wahh" is all on your side. Get a grip.

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shadowrouge
05.28.2013 , 10:37 AM | #170
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
All the "wahh wahh" is all on your side. Get a grip.
I dont have to wah wah. I chose a class that I knew was going to be good. I tank. I enjoy Tanking so I made a tank, then I have alts for other stuff. People made their toons with the knowledge that when the game first came out there would be no AC changing yet they are whining for it still over a year later.
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