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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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astrobearx
05.28.2013 , 05:28 AM | #151
Quote: Originally Posted by Stoofa View Post
LOL.
The game is far too easy.
Do a couple of flashpoints on a planet and throw in some PvP and you'll be out-levelling the content almost from the second planet onwards.
This means that you only need to complete class quests before you move on.
Even the slowest player couldn't take months to take a character to 55.
it took me 3 months to level my lvl 55 assassin and its also took me another more 2 month each for my operator and gunslinger.

not everyone live, eat and breathe this game. some people actually have this thing called "real life stuff to do" that prevent some from leveling a toon in weeks.

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Warrgames
05.28.2013 , 07:11 AM | #152
It should never be allowed. How do you make it to max level and THEN realize you don't like the class. Or is it simply your main is no longer FotM and want to swap classes to become FotM?

The only reason they are called AC is instead class is it allowed them them to have 8 class story instead of 16.

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Jemfisto
05.28.2013 , 07:13 AM | #153
I prefer to not be able to switch advanced classes. To me, they are separate classes but are just joined by the story. It isn't a talent spec.

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hages
05.28.2013 , 07:23 AM | #154
I hope they never will allow it.
You made youre choise at lvl 10. That is how it will be.
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Raudbjorn
05.28.2013 , 07:29 AM | #155
I agree that this should atleast be an option.
I myself want one of each AC, and my main is a DPS Jugg, i would prefer to change him to Mara, RP him as a warrior with 2 swords.
Not lightsabers, but vibroblades (or whatever they're called).
Still got a lvl 30 mara, and is more fitting to be juggernaut than marauder.
I'd swap AC's on them if i could.

And as always, people seem to think they're forced to use optional stuff.
Use it or leave it, and let people who wants it get it.
It really is that simple.

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Glower
05.28.2013 , 07:44 AM | #156
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ETA on Advanced Class change?
Right after paid server transfer! You know - just another NEW money train!
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Themanthatisi
05.28.2013 , 07:47 AM | #157
I am waiting for the AC changes to even play my Pub side again.... When I first started this game, I had no idea what classes did why, this is my first MMO. So I rolled a Sentinel, because I loved dual sabers... Well, time has passed, I have 12 toons in total and I have discovered, I love to tank. However, my pub toons were early, before I knew better and my Imp side, is heavy on the tank spec, the way I like it.

So, in reality, I would like to have a Guardian, the mirror of my 55, well geared Jugg.... SO, I do NOT want to hear from others, that I need to learn the class, I know it based on my Jugg alone, never mind my other tank toons.

I am at a point, I am very burnt out on leveling.. The thought of making a new toon, in a base class I already have, the same base story and after all that effort, I wont even have anymore legacy perks for a duplicate base class... is TOTALLY NOT desirable.

However, they could consider having perks in legacy for the AC, that may have some incentive for some of us to maybe roll a new alt and deal with the frustrating and repetitive grind. But I am sure, this is not likely anyway....

Ill pay $20 to have my sentinel turned into a guardian, I do not care if its only one time, I will never need to change it back.

I am not the only person new to MMO's that started with this game, and over time, after learning classes and their roll in OPS for example, should have the possibility to correct past mistakes. Unlike some of you that say no, and maybe have no job and tons of time to level toons, not all of us do. I work and when I come home, I play. Lets face it, leveling is a boring and frustrating GRIND, some of us, are not excited to repeat or sink all that time into doing, when we would rather enjoy the end game content.

YESSSSSSSSSS to AC changes!!!! My wallet is open and waiting.....
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LordArtemis
05.28.2013 , 07:51 AM | #158
Quote: Originally Posted by LordRahlik View Post
All of what you mention apart from f2p is only apparence. You don't get any form of benefit from those.
Concerns about AC swap and the reasons I would instantly quit the game and never look back if it was implemented:

1 - People who don't know their class.
I suppose this is rather self explanatory, but I can add that people don't know how to play now, when being allowed to just get handed a char to them that they never played before it's going to be chaos.
Reputable reason against IMO.

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2 - FotM
This will affect the game in some way. Not major which we have seen in other posts in this thread but enough for me to want to quit.
Somewhat less important but still a reputable concern IMO.


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3 - Intelligent players and BW standing up for what they have said to us
It's **CLEARLY** stated when you choose that this is a permanent choice and you will not be able to change. If you actually back down on that they will give in to stupid people who cannot read and accept what they have read.
The other part of this is BW actually living up to the "permanent" choice that they claim that it is.
Foolish predatory diatribe. Shame on you for even posting it.

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4 - Lazy players
I hate people wanted stuff handed to them in MMO. I want *much* harder MMO with *much* more work involved to get somewhere. I come from WoW 1.x where you had no way of summoning people to an instance, no group finder and no world chat-lines. You HAD TO travel to an area, all of you, to enter an instance. That's fun! That puts demands on players. This "I wanna enter an instance give it to me now at once without having to lift a finger" attitude is just worthless in my opinion and this would be the final straw.
Again, foolish baseless diatribe. Your post is quickly devolving in intelligence level IMO.

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5 - Egoism
I have 14 chars at 50+, 12 of them is 55. I have leveled up some of those chars ONLY cause you cannot change AC and I would feel cheated if someone else could do it "just like that".
Yes, this is the least important part and the part that I am least proud of. But I have to face reality and admit that this is part of the reason I would quit if they implemented it.
I wish this reason was not on the list, but unfortunately, the human race has egoism built into it at such a basic level that this actually is a reason, no matter how much I hate the fact.
Aside from the first two reasons you posted this is among the most honest so I will not deride you for it. I also do not think it should be ignored as a reason.

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The thing I could accept is 500 CC as a switch cost with 24 h cooldown and a maximum level of 20 on the char that does it.
Then you can swap if you make a mistake on low level, but never on higher level - never ever. I would stop playing the game 2 seconds after this was announced and never look back.
I have absolutely no respect for your #3 and #4 options and find them insulting to your obvious intelligence. They both demonstrate a lack of self respect IMO.

The first, second and last items however seem reputable as reasons against. If you wish to gain respect from a person like me (which is naturally neither important nor required) you will refrain from such hyperbole in the future.

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Arlon_Nabarlly
05.28.2013 , 07:52 AM | #159
The quote says will likely happen eventually. AKA not anywhere near soon.

Also they darn well better due true duel spec either before this or at the same time as this.

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Arlon_Nabarlly
05.28.2013 , 07:54 AM | #160
Quote: Originally Posted by Warrgames View Post
It should never be allowed. How do you make it to max level and THEN realize you don't like the class. Or is it simply your main is no longer FotM and want to swap classes to become FotM?

The only reason they are called AC is instead class is it allowed them them to have 8 class story instead of 16.
Agreed. The only thing allowing AC respec will do is enable people to change their AC every-time there's a buff or nerf to one side or the other and throw off overal AC balance.